(Cross posted from PTP, not my hand, possibly 6-12 months old)


I'm not going anywhere, but I just don't know whether pre-antes am I shoving this or maybe 3.5-4xing this? I feel 3.5x-4x just might create too much of awkward stack sizes on the flop, but at the same time I find it far more likely for him to call a 3.5-4x raise pre. A shove seems a bit too much but given stack sizes.....


If it matters, in an unopened pot I will 2.5x with my stack size

PokerStars Game #48508428157: Tournament #303682841, $3.00+$0.25 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level IV (50/100) - 2010/08/22 10:45:47 ET
Table '303682841 2' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: arnebever (1100 in chips)
Seat 2: lumiNas (1615 in chips)
Seat 4: thadarkman78 (1563 in chips)
Seat 5: onealex (3145 in chips)
Seat 6: ChaosTom (2155 in chips)
Seat 7: SugarCool (2455 in chips)
Seat 8: IpokerLox (1375 in chips)
Seat 9: Ruby800 (1590 in chips)
IpokerLox: posts small blind 50
Ruby800: posts big blind 100
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to thadarkman78
arnebever: folds
lumiNas: calls 100
thadarkman78:


Discuss...

A shove here is real dependent on reads. The majority of the time I would think it's thin, but in these games you'll see these guys call you off with some weak hands like Ax, smaller pairs and sometimes even suited connectors. So if he's real loose, you can shove here for value.

That said, if he's an unknown or his stats are tight or weak-tight/passive, he's probably set-mining or limping a suited ace. I would definitely isolate 2.5x+1 and c-bet flop. Whether or not I stack off is dependent on stats, flop texture, etc.

^^ that!

That said, if he's an unknown or his stats are tight or weak-tight/passive, he's probably set-mining or limping a suited ace. I would definitely isolate 2.5x+1 and c-bet flop

Just ship it IMO , 3.5x -ing a limper with 15BB leads to some nasty spots , also you are not last to act .