I played this a few days ago and just want to get other opinions of whether it was the right move or not.
I'm in EP with 87d, haven't raised in around 15 hands so I toss in a 3xBB raise. Blinds are 2500/5000:500. I've got roughly 120,000. The table has been somewhat loose from what I saw while I was at this table. It folds around to the BB who calls. Flop comes 6d 4d Qc. The BB checks and I make it 18,000. The BB raises all-in with roughly 160,000. I'm giving myself around 40% to win from here. With about 160,000 in the pot and 85,000 to call putting myself all-in, What do you do here?
I called it and finished 40th, knocked out right here by Q6o. I could've folded this hand and waited for a better situation, but I saw this a good place to put it in. This was a cheap tournament, so I was really looking FT or bust.
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Thread: Tournament hand
November 6th, 2008 #1
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November 6th, 2008 #2
Fold preflop. 3xBB raise is more than 10% of your stack. The table is loose by your statement, so you probably aren't stealing the blinds.
November 6th, 2008 #3
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Ok, I didn't have much time earlier, I was already late to class.
I looked back through the HH. The details for this hand are right, but the players weren't loose enough to call them loose. A few players liked limping and seeing flops. There was alot of action in the last orbit, but from solid hands.
The last hand I played was the BB(from this hand) limping and calling my raise, then folding to my cont bet on the flop. That created more an idea that he was just playing back at me in this hand.
In reality, I'm just asking if the call of his push was ok or whether I should've just tossed it in and moved on with time to play. I like to convince myself to make bad calls.
November 6th, 2008 #4
Fold preflop. It costs you 12,000 chips just going round the table paying your blinds and antes. You can't afford to spend anything on a raise with those cards and that position at this stage in your tourney.
Maybe in a late position, but even then with an M value around 10 you need something better than midrange suited connectors to make a move. A9-AK, pairs maybe 66+, 2 face cards, something like that, shove preflop and take your chances. You either get the blinds and survive another round or you're in a coin flip, which you might be on the good side of depending on what you shoved with. How close you are to the next blind level makes a big difference in how desperate you are at that point as well, if it's close any pair might be good enough since you won't have many more hands to look at before you're really in trouble.
As far as calling his push goes you said there was about 160k in the pot with 85k to call. That means you weren't even getting 2:1 odds on about a 2.9:1 chance of hitting, so you definitely should have tossed it and found a better spot.
November 7th, 2008 #5
I probably wouldn't raise that from EP at a full-handed table even if I had 500k there.
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