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  1. #1
    Loz
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    Default This was justa bad but lucky call on his part right

    Did my bet take or give him the odds to call? I was trying to get him off his hand. I got a huge chip lead, im 1st in the tourney as a matter of fact. I believed and was right about having the best hand.

    My read on dude was tight passive. He did some raise folding. My image is definately that of a bomb. Aggressive pre and post flop. Ive showed down with some stron hands. I didnt see him show down once.

    Should I have
    A. Folded preflop
    B. Checked
    C. Did the right thing
    D. Other (explain)

    And here is the hand:
    Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, 0.00 BB (8 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

    UTG (1410.00)
    UTG+1 (2360.00)
    MP1 (4330.00)
    MP2 (6610.00)
    CO (2870.00)
    Button (2535.00)
    SB (3585.00)
    Hero (BB) (13670.00)

    Preflop: Hero is BB with 6, 8
    1 fold, UTG+1 raises to 660.00, 2 folds, CO calls 660.00, 2 folds, Hero calls 360.00

    Flop: (2130.00) 6, 7, Q (3 players)
    Hero bets 2210.00, 1 fold, CO calls 2210.00 (All-In)

    Turn: (6550.00) K (2 players, 1 all-in)

    River: (6550.00) 8 (2 players, 1 all-in)

    Total pot: 6550.00 | Rake: 0.00

    Results in white below:
    Hero had 6, 8 (flush, King high)
    CO had 10, J (flush, King high)
    Outcome: CO won 6550.00
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    FYI. I finished first in this 45 man SnG. Again.
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    i cant see why u would call pf against two players from oop with 86o.....even though ur getting almost 5/1 to close the pf action, u need a perfect flop to get paid off with those rags and if UTG+1 is tight passive, he wont pay u off on that perfect flop. U dont mention what kind of player CO is.

    also, even tho u say u believed u had the best hand, any hand that will call u will be most likely be a favourite to beat u (his JTo is a slight favourite on that flop)

    a huge chip lead is one thing but handing those chips back for free is an entirely different matter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeeYakaBaka View Post
    i cant see why u would call pf against two players from oop with 86o.....even though ur getting almost 5/1 to close the pf action, u need a perfect flop to get paid off with those rags and if UTG+1 is tight passive, he wont pay u off on that perfect flop. U dont mention what kind of player CO is.

    also, even tho u say u believed u had the best hand, any hand that will call u will be most likely be a favourite to beat u (his JTo is a slight favourite on that flop)

    a huge chip lead is one thing but handing those chips back for free is an entirely different matter.
    I called for the pot odds. Im trying to make my game more aggressive (on a hyper aggressive level) and its been working for me but I do find myself in tough situations sometimes and it does hurt my stack occasionally. I think next time in a situation like that I'll just fold unless they are true suited connectors. That hand was an exception in the tourney last night. I was playing more solid than that.

    I called for 2 reasons. One was the pot odds, the other is after reading and studying some of Negreanus play Im more inclined now to defend my blind and see a flop with any 2 cards if Im getting good odds to call. Had my stack not been so much more dominant than his I probably would of folded in that situation but I had him way covered if I made a move for the pot and got called not holding the better hand.

    So in retrospect I was right, I did get my chips in with the better hand, but back to my original question. Im still trying to understand the wole odds thing.

    I know I didnt give him pot odds, but was his call a good call as far as implied odds are concerned?
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    He was getting 2-1 and this is basicly a coinflip. Yes he made a good call.
    iif u raise my raise one more ****ing time i will come over there and slit ur throat

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loz View Post
    I called for the pot odds. Im trying to make my game more aggressive (on a hyper aggressive level)
    then why would you call oop with 6 8 o?

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    PF is very very bad

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    fold pf

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    i like the call preflop, your getting 5:1 to call (17%).
    i'm 50/50 on the post flop push.
    you have bottom pair and low flush draw...if either villain calls with just a flush draw you are flipping. if either villain calls with tpgk, you are still flipping. if either villain calls with tp & flush draw, you are probably a huge dog @ ~16%. its also a good possibility that they both may call you down and you are drawing dead.
    but then again, if you can put them both at risk by putting them both in on just a flip, you just might scare them enough to make them fold.
    like i said, i'm 50/50 on the post flop play, i could go either way depending on how i feel about the hand and the villains at the time.
    f*cking it up for everyone else since 1969.

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    Pot odds are really really not everything. You'd need a 868 or 574 flop with that shit hand.

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