Third hand of the final table, I had just won 2 hands in a row before this so it looked like I was fairly loose (even though it was mostly just running hot cards). I expected his first re-raise.... but the all-in made me go into the think tank... It just felt like he was stealing... and I visualized him having A-rag. So I called.... good read? or am I losing money here most of the time calling this?


PokerStars Game #5613532362: Tournament #28395711, $1.50+$0.25 Hold'em No Limit - Level V (75/150) - 2006/07/19 - 19:13:24 (ET)
Table '28395711 1' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: mincingqueen (1405 in chips)
Seat 2: gamblninfla (3885 in chips)
Seat 3: HERO (5835 in chips)
Seat 4: LaSauce (6680 in chips)
Seat 5: ruchell (1880 in chips)
Seat 6: SHIRLEY (2290 in chips)
Seat 8: HorsePuller8 (1665 in chips)
Seat 9: Shakey01 (3360 in chips)
HERO : posts small blind 75
LaSauce: posts big blind 150
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to HERO [ ]
ruchell: folds
SHIRLEY: folds
HorsePuller8: folds
HorsePuller8 said, "nh"
Shakey01: folds
mincingqueen: folds
gamblninfla: folds
HERO said, "ty... now were even for earlier "
HERO : raises 300 to 450
LaSauce: raises 300 to 750
HERO : raises 750 to 1500
LaSauce: raises 5180 to 6680 and is all-in
HERO : calls 4335 and is all-in
*** FLOP *** [ ]
*** TURN *** [ ] []
*** RIVER *** [ ] []
*** SHOW DOWN ***
HERO : shows [ ] (a full house, Eights full of Kings)
LaSauce: shows [ ] (a pair of Kings)
gamblninfla said, "nc"
HERO collected 11670 from pot
HERO said, "ty"
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 11670 | Rake 0
Board [ ]
Seat 1: mincingqueen folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: gamblninfla (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: HERO (small blind) showed [ ] and won (11670) with a full house, Eights full of Kings
Seat 4: LaSauce (big blind) showed [ ] and lost with a pair of Kings
Seat 5: ruchell folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: SHIRLEY folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: HorsePuller8 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: Shakey01 folded before Flop (didn't bet)

1.) Good job going with your read win or lose, good or bad read. That's the only way your reads get better.

2.) You need to move all in or fold here PF. We talked about this in another thread that the 3rd raise is all in. You did face to pussy raises, but you're not going anywhere, so why not increase your folding equity with what's either a bad mid or big lo pair. (Give it a name. It's weak.)

although the outcome favoured I think you had a bit more time. Two chip leaders taking coins flips against each other with a few more orbits left could be costly longterm. 88 is a bit marginal... most mid pairs beat you badly.

'But it seems you're late..so the blind attack is merited but.... I hate calling all-ins with mid pairs.. unless Im much lower M than this. I'd be all-in preflop methinks..

I guess this guy is very aggressive.. When you make that first raise at this point against this sort of player - you are likely to fire off stuff..

what is the payout structure?

1st: 40% of prize pool
2nd: 30% of prize pool
3rd: 20% of prize pool
4th: 10% of prize pool

i dont make this call. if i think there is a VERY good chance hes stealing, i make the push.

Fold PF. There's no reason to gamble here with your stack, imho.