Hi all,
Second hand of SNG so no reads on villain. Thought process for the hand..
Pre-flop – Hated his min-raise, but my hand wasn’t strong enough to 3 bet. His min raise doesn’t really narrow his range at all.
Flop – Great flop. Saw that it was rainbow, no draws really so though it would be a good spot to trap. Checked behind.
Turn – Villain makes large overbet which polarises his range somewhat. Could be total bluff or another 10. Call, hoping to extract more money on the river.
River – Not really a scare card for me, he donks another large bet. At this point I’m not really much better off than the turn...could be a bluff...could be a made hand. I’m hoping he’s got the other 10, so I stick a re-raise in for value. When he 4 bets me all in I start to feel sick. What do you do?
Party, 20/40 blinds No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 10 Players
Poker Tools by CardRunners - Hand Details
MP2: 2,000 (50 bb)
MP3: 2,000 (50 bb)
CO: 2,000 (50 bb)
Hero (BTN): 1,960 (49 bb)
SB: 1,960 (49 bb)
BB: 2,000 (50 bb)
UTG: 2,000 (50 bb)
UTG+1: 2,120 (53 bb)
UTG+2: 2,000 (50 bb)
MP1: 1,960 (49 bb)
Preflop: Hero is BTN with TA
3 folds, MP1 raises to 80, 3 folds, Hero calls 80, 2 folds
Flop: (220) TT
4
(2 players)
MP1 checks, Hero checks
Turn: (220) 8(2 players)
MP1 bets 240, Hero calls 240
River: (700) 5(2 players)
MP1 bets 240, Hero raises to 600, MP1 raises to 1,640 and is all-in, Hero calls 1,040 and is all-in
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10-07-2011 #1Fish
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Fold?
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10-07-2011 #2Super Moderator
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Why raise on the river if you weren't going to call a shove? Also the turn bet is a pot sized bet, how is that an over bet? haha
I would make that call. I think you made a mistake not raising on the turn. Can you post the result?
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10-07-2011 #3Fish
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I agree...I had to call river. Just wandering if I did the right thing raising....was I getting greedy? Not sure if the trip 10's top kicker is a good enough to stack off this early? Thing is re raising on the river tells villain i have a 10. He's surely only going to go all in with trip 10 with K or A kicker or full house. There is literally one hand I am getting value from.
Why do you think not raising turn is a mistake? With that in mind do you think not betting the flop is a mistake? 3 streets of value? Just think I made a real hash of this hand
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10-07-2011 #4Fish
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I will of course post the result....in a bit
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10-07-2011 #5
Is it just me, or are the card images on the forum not showing up?
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10-07-2011 #6Chaser
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I think it says the pot is 220 on the turn, and the guy bet 240 -- kinda an overbet, right?
I agree with what you said too. I raise the turn because I think his range gets stronger -- pairs are stronger with a paired board and there are a few straight possibilities. Plus you need to try to get some value out of your hand -- 240 isn't enough, I want stacks if possible.
On the river, I don't see the point in a re-raise. He can't possibly think he has any fold equity there, so I'm thinking it might make more sense to just jam and maximize your fold equity. I might be way off here, but I think a jam polarizes your range to a hand or bluff, whereas a small raise w/no FE is a made hand -- it folds out the real bottom of his range that may have hit this board, J9, J7, 97 (maybe), and you get it in with everything else -- can't imagine he just calls, but who knows.
My guess is a slow played overpair (due to the min-raise pre) -- JJs+ and maaaybe 99s.
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10-07-2011 #8
Weird.
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10-10-2011 #9Fish
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He turned a full house with pocket 8's. Might have got him to fold with a bet on the flop, but it sounds like most of you would have stacked off in this situation so I dont feel so bad about it!
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10-10-2011 #10Chaser
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Unlucky IMO.
I don't think you get him to fold 88s on that flop though -- ever. Even if there is an over card on the turn he'll probably peel a river. Think about it this way, how often are you actually hitting a T-T-4 flop?
That said, I'd also like to add that c-betting this flop wouldn't be horrible. You generally have some fold equity on these flops, so you'd do it as a bluff, so why not do it for value? AT might be thin for value, but you can value (c)bet these flops with AK and AQ a lot of times. That way you can be sure to get two or 3 streets of value too -- or value town yourself like in this case
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