$1 90 person mtt major suckout, leading to playing next tournament hand wrong?

**paul1085** · 10-04-2011

Hi im a newbie here would just like to know what you guys thought of these two hands the first one i think i played near perfectly but just got unlucky (majorly), set mining in first stages of mtt, the hands say its 9 max but they are 90 man mtt early stages.

PokerStars - $0.91+$0.09|15/30 NL (9 max) - Holdem - 7 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

MP: 1,490.00
CO: 4,080.00
BTN: 1,955.00
SB: 1,450.00
BB: 305.00
UTG: 1,220.00
Hero (UTG+1): 1,500.00

SB posts SB 15.00, BB posts BB 30.00

Pre Flop: (45.00) Hero has 6:heart: 6:club:

UTG calls 30.00, Hero calls 30.00, fold, fold, BTN raises to 60.00, fold, BB raises to 305.00 and is all-in, UTG calls 275.00, Hero calls 275.00, BTN calls 245.00

Flop: (1235.00, 4 players) 6:diamond: A:spade: 7:club:
UTG bets 30.00, Hero calls 30.00, BTN raises to 1,650.00 and is all-in, UTG calls 885.00 and is all-in, Hero calls 1,165.00 and is all-in

Turn: (4540.00, 4 players) 7:spade:

River: (4540.00, 4 players) A:heart:

Hero shows 6:heart: 6:club: (Full House, Sixes full of Aces) (PreFlop 34%, Flop 96%, Turn 90%)
BTN shows J:heart: A:diamond: (Full House, Aces full of Sevens) (PreFlop 33%, Flop 2%, Turn 10%)
UTG shows Q:heart: K:club: (Two Pair, Aces and Sevens) (PreFlop 27%, Flop 1%, Turn 0%)
BB shows Q:club: 2:heart: (Two Pair, Aces and Sevens) (PreFlop 6%, Flop 0%, Turn 0%)
BTN wins 4,540.00

Sucks i know lol.

Just wanting to know how you guys combat being sucked out on like this similar thing happened a few days ago was in top 100 chipstacks after bubble in a 6k players tournament field 500 people left all in with AA, QQ, AK first two allin preflop against 2 outer lower pockets and both caught the two outers and seems to affect my game after these suckouts.

this leads me to my next tourny after the hand i posted above, not the best hand paired with the board but was sure i was beaten only to be shown arag by both players arrrghhhh.

PokerStars - $0.91+$0.09|10/20 NL (9 max) - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

MP: 1,630.00
MP+1: 1,490.00
CO: 1,310.00
BTN: 1,470.00
SB: 1,480.00
Hero (BB): 1,590.00
UTG: 1,500.00
UTG+1: 3,030.00

SB posts SB 10.00, Hero posts BB 20.00

Pre Flop: (30.00) Hero has A:heart: J:heart:

fold, fold, fold, MP+1 raises to 60.00, CO calls 60.00, fold, fold, Hero calls 40.00

Flop: (190.00, 3 players) Q:spade: A:club: 9:club:
Hero checks, MP+1 checks, CO bets 102.00, Hero calls 102.00, MP+1 calls 102.00

Turn: (496.00, 3 players) 7:heart:
Hero checks, MP+1 checks, CO bets 267.00, Hero calls 267.00, MP+1 calls 267.00

River: (1297.00, 3 players) 5:spade:
Hero checks, MP+1 bets 1,061.00 and is all-in, CO calls 881.00 and is all-in, fold

MP+1 shows 3:diamond: A:diamond: (One Pair, Aces) (PreFlop 47%, Flop 47%, Turn 50%)
CO shows 4:spade: A:spade: (One Pair, Aces) (PreFlop 53%, Flop 53%, Turn 50%)
MP+1 wins 1,530.00
CO wins 1,529.00

This is a farcry from what usually happens, im usually mega lucky/hitting flops left right and centre in the early stages and variance kicks in in later stages and lose the all ins at the later stages like going out with ak to a3 in 10th place lol.

What strategy do you guys best implore for mtt's, play loose agressive in opening stages to build up a big stack for final table, or tag and employ smallstack coinflips in later stages?

**mattgeer** · 10-07-2011

The first hand -- I don't call with the 66s. You're not getting a good enough price, and chances are your crushed. In fact, with the big blind being so short, I'm not a huge fan of setmining anyway. I probably still do, considering our position -- but if I was in LP and it was folded to me, I probably wouldn't bother.

The second hand -- I don't check the flop with top pair. There are a lot of hands to get value from, and I'm perfectly happy taking the pot down right away too. I'm going to bet for value, and it's going to be damn near pot. I don't like checking the turn either -- again, tons of draws out there. I'd bet for value, as any combo draw is getting it in, as well as weak top pair or 2nd pairs.

From the second hand it looks like you play your hands passively. I'd work on that myself. In regards to these MTTs, I play tight(er) early on and loosen up as the tournament progresses, especially when antes kick in.

I made a couple videos a week or so ago. You might find them helpful:

$3/18-man Sng HH Review (Colin) -- Video Part 1

**George** · 10-07-2011

When it's raised to 60, then BB raises to 305.00 and is all-in, you should know 66 are at BEST in a coinflip. Fold prelop and wait for a better spot.

**Jarr3tt88** · 10-10-2011

66 always gets me in trouble...

**Rankles** · 11-27-2011

As above, easy fold on the 66 pf and then a horrible low bet from UTG on the flop and an equally poor call from yourself. If you had raised properly on the flop, you might have gotten rid of the button but otherwise he saw massive weakness with your bets and whilst we know he was beaten, he rightfully though he probably had the best hand. Still his all in bet was silly as it certainly wasn't amazing but a lot of weak players shove with aces.

UTG seems like he wouldn't have folded to your raise anyway so you would have won his stack potentially if you'd raised. Still, the donkey all in push from the button might have still gone ahead if you'd raised anyway so lots of places in this hand for you to lose your cash. Best way to avoid it is to fold PF out of position.

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