Yeah, we definitely had a chat about it, lol -- good one though. It's how you get better.

As I said above, a shove isn't my first option -- it is what I do before I 3-bet though, just because of stack sizes.

A shove would be waaay better with antes though. Antes would add another 90-220 chips or so, making the pot like 500 chips. A shove would actually be pretty standard in that case (25% of your stack, you only need to win 3/4 times -- you get folds often enough to make that profitable, not to mention the rest of the times you flip).

I think there are more variables when it comes to 3-betting -- probably need to consider image, ranges, history, etc. I know this is only a $3 game, but still worth keeping in mind + you still have regs. And these regs are guys you basically move up with.

Anyway, that's all I'll say on it -- my approach, at least in SNGs, is very math based. At least preflop -- as I improved, my game started to lean towards playing more post flop. With that said though, I also had to cut back my tables.

Originally Posted by Jarr3tt88

woah you guys had a huge discussion lol

IMO, either way a shove PF wasn't that great with having still a decent stack to play poker. Flat or 3 bet thats really the only options...? I'd rather lose 25% of my stack and KNOW I'm beat than to shove and get called by a better hand. 25% of the stack really isn't even that much in this case, the blinds are still low where you can get away from the hand and still be able to play poker.