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  1. #1
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    Default bad call ? i thought it was monster flop 4 my hand

    Absolute/UB Cereus Hold'em, $30.00 BB (9 handed) - Absolute/UB Cereus Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

    MP3 ($580)
    CO ($9535)
    Button ($1190)
    SB ($1765)
    BB ($3677)
    UTG ($1965)
    UTG+1 ($1375)
    Hero (MP1) ($1630)
    MP2 ($1460)

    Preflop: Hero is MP1 with 7, 5
    2 folds, Hero calls $30, 2 folds, CO calls $30, Button calls $30, SB calls $15, BB checks

    Flop: ($150) 6, J, 4 (5 players)
    SB checks, BB bets $150, Hero raises to $540, 3 folds, BB raises to $3647 (All-In), Hero calls $1060 (All-In)

    Turn: ($3350) 8 (2 players, 2 all-in)

    River: ($3350) A (2 players, 2 all-in)

    Total pot: $3350

    Results below:
    BB had Q, J (one pair, Jacks).
    Hero had 7, 5 (straight, eight high).
    Outcome: Hero won $3350

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    IMO flatting the flop is prob better. You have 15 outs, so you're a 55/45ish favourite, basically a coin-flip. At such an early stage you don't need to be pushing so hard on such a prospect. It would be like shoving preflop with AK this early, there's just way too much risk and not a great advantage.

    Call the bet, you may get other callers behind you, adding even more value to your implied odds. And it seems to be a pretty fishy tourney if a guy is pot-betting and shoving over a raise with TPGK this early, so it's very likely you'll get paid when you do hit your draw, but you will have only lost a chunk of your stack if you miss, rather than all of it.

    I think this PF limp is ok (but uncomfortable) in the first few levels, since stacks are relatively large and you want to see cheap flops and make big hands (suited connectors and pocket pairs are great for this), but slow down the post-flop, most people are wild and think super aggression will win no matter what, so let them hang themselves when you make a big hand, don't push them into it in a marginal situation. This same flop play may be better later on in the tourney though, but the PF limp would not be good, when your implied odds disappear because people aren't as wild with their chips.
    Last edited by azeldin; 01-30-2010 at 03:48 AM.
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    thanks alot i like that explanation, other views on this are appreciated as well

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    The game type would be usefull

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    Quote Originally Posted by 22Fish View Post
    The game type would be usefull
    He labeled the thread as [MTT] in the SNG & MTT section, stacks look like MTT size starting at 1500, and OP has always posted about micro/low stakes games, so it's definitely not $15/$30 NL cash.

    Or did you mean was it normal, turbo, rebuy, etc.?
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    i get all of chips in on the flop.
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    it was micro stakes regular tourny i think it was a 2 dollar buy in

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