Full Tilt Poker Game #12469668395: MSOP Event #1 (91421205), Table 325 - 500/1000 Ante 125 - No Limit Hold'em - 18:52:26 ET - 2009/05/27
Seat 1: (18,923)
Seat 2: (44,620)
Seat 3: (35,167)
Seat 4: Villain (105,849)
Seat 5: Hero (38,004)
Seat 6: (7,975), is sitting out
Seat 7: (11,346)
Seat 8: (32,730)
Seat 9: (14,470)
antes 125
Seat 8 posts the small blind of 500
Seat 9 posts the big blind of 1,000
2625 in the pot PF
The button is in seat #7
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [![]()
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3 folds
Villain calls 1,000
Hero raises to 4,000
4 folds
Villain calls 3,000
*** FLOP *** [![]()
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Villain checks
Hero bets 6,600
Villain raises to 101,724, and is all in
Not much on villain. He's sitting top 30 with that stack.
Is this a call or fold for anyone else here? I'm sitting at 27279 with a fold, 51104 in the pot with his shove. If I fold, I'll still have 27xbb and M just over 10.
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Thread: MSOP Event #1
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05-27-2009 #1River Rat
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MSOP Event #1
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05-27-2009 #2
i chuck it away and try get my money in first. A-Q is a slim possibility as its a raising hand at this stage of a tourney. 6-6 7-7? what did you think? 2-1 on your money i still fold though.
who dares wins ;)
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05-28-2009 #3
I would not have bet this flop with these stacks without a clear plan. Vs most players I'm not putting a chip in the pot after the flop if I'm not planning on getting it all in.
Checking the flop is a viable option.
Regardless, think about it this way. If you bet and call the shove and he shows up with something like QT,QJ,KQ,AQ, even though in this instance you got it in behind, he made a mistake preflop and if his range includes random broadway hands it probably includes suited connectors, small pairs, enough hands to make getting it in here on the Q high flop profitable regardless of what he turns up with.
After looking a bit more closely at the hand, I probably make it something like 3200 preflop and either check the flop, or bet smaller and get away. As played the pot is probably too big and you have risked too much of your stack to fold what is likely the best hand.
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05-29-2009 #4
I check flop, I think I still fold to the crai unless I have actually seen the guy crai total air here before.
I think vs a range of Qs, two pair, sets, overcards, flushdraws, pair and flush draws and OESDs your in bad shape, so even with the huge price you're being given, I lay this down.
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05-29-2009 #5River Rat
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Ok, thanks.
I get stuck in somewhat of an autopilot mode from time to time, where I'll just keep betting.
At the point of his CRAI I'm putting him on a FD or SD atleast 80% of the time, with 2 pair and a set possible. I really don't put a Q in his range at all. What Qx hand would he limp PF? I don't see any that he does this with. Most limping is going to be suited connectors maybe some gappers, small pairs, and maybe suited As.
The pot was big enough that I felt I had to call it. Turn
, River
, and he flips 
for the straight.
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05-29-2009 #6
I think he has QT/QJ/KQ here enough, your PF bet might not have taken him off those if he want to limp them.
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05-29-2009 #7
Against his range of Qx/ a pair+flush draw/2 overcards+FD/set/air you are way behind and this would be a fold.
Edit: Didnt see the 22Fish first answer, this one was very good too
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