Full Tilt Poker, NL Hold'em Tournament, 120/240 Blinds, 25 Ante, 9 Players
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MP1: 4,265
MP2: 5,245
CO: 3,595
BTN: 8,035
SB: 2,745
Hero (BB): 3,705
UTG: 14,521
UTG+1: 2,155
UTG+2: 14,420
Pre-Flop: (585) A:diamond: J:spade: dealt to Hero (BB)
UTG raises to 480, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 calls 480, 3 folds, BTN calls 480, SB folds, Hero raises to 3,680 and is All-In, UTG raises to 14,496 and is All-In, 2 folds
Flop: (8,665) 7:club: 5:spade: 3:diamond: (2 Players - 1 is All-In)
Turn: (8,665) 2:spade: (2 Players - 1 is All-In)
River: (8,665) 3:heart: (2 Players - 1 is All-In)
Results: 8,665 Pot
Hero showed A:diamond: J:spade: (a pair of Threes) and LOST (-3,705 NET)
UTG showed A:heart: A:club: (two pair, Aces and Threes) and WON 8,665 (+4,960 NET)

Super dooper standard in my book but I'm a donk.

What are you ahead of here with AJ? I do realize that the button flatting is pretty weak, but it doesn't discount that you have 1 raiser, 2 callers, someone's got something better then AJ. UTG has you covered and is going to race with mid PP's (if you want to race with AJ). With your stack you're not at total desperation yet. I think you can flat this, or throw it away looking for a better spot.

if these players have been even remotely active, this is a standard shove for me. If UTG has been fairly tight, I fold. Also, 4tun8, Flatting is out of the question here with this stack. ~13-22 bb's is a reshove stack.

I think it totally depends on the situation of the tourney and the state of play at the table... As sk8freak_21 says "If UTG has been fairly tight, I fold"...

However if it's quite a jam up table then I like the shove with A-J... As long as you think you're doing it as a squeeze play and not thinking that your hand is one to go to war with. 4tun8 makes a good point by asking "What can you beat with A-J?" - So as long as you think you're stacking off to get some dead money then it's not a bad play... You should be hoping/praying that you're not going to get called in that spot... I don't think the two flat callers should necessarily be a worry... However the UTG raiser's table image should really make your decision for you...

After all, you could wait for a bigger hand if he's a tighter player - Or make the move with A-J is he's loose and hope you don't get a caller...

Thanks for the responces. I am making this move mainly for the 2k of dead money in the pot if they fold which is huge here.

I do not expect to get called by much worse but some of them have been a bit spazzy so I'd much rather have AJ than say 55. UTG might call with 66+ ATs+ AJ+ KQs?

One of the others might feel priced in with a pocket pair also, however for the massive amount of dead money if I get a folds + the chance I pick up the pot here I think it's good enough, to ship 3300 into 2k.

I do understand the thing about UTG, but I think he'd need a very tight opening range. Am I about right with this?

Or are people thinking more about my position in the tourney and winning 2000 chips 70% of the time (factoring in to 30% of the time I win 8k) isn't going to be advantagious enough to risk busting unecessarily?

I don't think it's standard at all. I generally take a min-raise UTG as suspicious and generally really strong. I'd call and check/fold the flop. Obviously we'd need a lot more info to actually provide any worthwhile advice, but as presented, I think this play is really bad.

sk8freak_21 is right that you have an ideal re-steal stack, but at 15bb's I don't think it is an obligatory shove that it would be if you had, say, 10bb's. I do agree that it depends on your read of the UTG raiser. Burning 1bb with a flat though, isn't the worst thing I can imagine, though given the action I think I'd prefer a fold and look to shove an unopened pot with any marginal+ hand in the next three or four hands.

1 raise and two calls is strong. pushing is bad.

I like Legologic and Morehead right here... your stack doesnt dictate an obligatory shove quite yet... and why not look for a little less competition... you know one of them is feeling committed to a call...