A5s in SB lateish in 90 plyr SNG

**in4rehab** · 05-02-2009

The BB was about 21/14 so far here. There were 20 left out of 90 with top 9 in the money.

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, 3+0.30 Tournament, 300/600 Blinds 75 Ante (8 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

MP1 (t7740)
MP2 (t10440)
CO (t5886)
Button (t13500)
Hero (SB) (t13310)
BB (t10950)
UTG (t21445)
UTG+1 (t11165)

Hero's M: 8.87

Preflop: Hero is SB with

,

6 folds, Hero bets t13235 (All-In), BB calls t10275 (All-In)

Flop: (t22350)

,

(2 players, 2 all-in)

Turn: (t22350)

(2 players, 2 all-in)

River: (t22350)

(2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: t22350

Results:
Hero had 5

, A

(one pair, fours).
BB had 10

, A

(one pair, fours).
Outcome: BB won t22350

Is this a reasonable shove in this situation?

**Da Kiwi** · 05-03-2009

Depends on how keen you are to get the game over with, I don't know the maths but I win more than my share on smaller tables and I'd be leary of pushing that hand preflop. Even learier of calling with it. Ace rag is a pretty shit hand in my unlearned opinion, suited doesn't really count for much.

**22Fish** · 05-03-2009

You have 22BBs vs a non-auful player with 18BBs which you cover.

I don't expect these guys to realise you will shoving here super wide so I think we can put them on KQ, KJs, 77+, ATo+ A9s+. for calling this.

Given there are 2BBs in the pot I think this is mathematically good. Though 18BBs is a lot here. Say you win 8/9 without showdown. (Villain on top 11% of hands). You are a 60-40 dog vs that range. Which I belive makes this good.

Interesting hand because I saw it and though "too deep to make this play" then realised I was wrong...

There are arguments for making this 1600 and folding though, as I think you've seen with 15BBs+ I tend to underraise habitually.

**4tun8** · 05-03-2009

I don't like it. I'd min raise this hand. Or make it 1500 even. Anything that pushes back is going to be bigger then A5 at this level of the game, or atleast something you don't want to run a5 into (mid PP, AT+ etc)

**jharding666** · 05-03-2009

I like

**sk8freak_21** · 05-04-2009

open shove>open fold> raise fold

If he's aggro and capable of 3betting quite a bit, I put raise call 1st

**squeezyplayer** · 05-08-2009

it's def +EV and probably the best play readless, but with more info on BB raise/call and raise/fold could also both be viable

**4tun8** · 05-09-2009

You have like 24BB's left, making moves like this is desperate and never a big hand. You're not going to push with AK with that big of a stack or atleast you shouldn't be. That's why it gives away so much information about your hand. You know it's not a big ace, you know it's not JJ+. I'm not saying I call this with AT, but I probably would with AJ.

**22Fish** · 05-09-2009

4tun8, you just said you would call here as light as AJ, as would I, but I think given what you just said read my post and it makes sense why this is good.

**4tun8** · 05-09-2009

See but the goal here is to steal the blinds. With his stack he's not making any moves, so you could just raise here and if he calls (stupid) or shoves then you play it from here. The goal here is to not go to the flop, I think shoving it here is wrong 95% of the time. It looks weak and it is weak with a weak hand. Doesn't take a brain surgeon to figure it out.

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