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    Poker Hustler 4tun8's Avatar
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    Default TARP!

    Well played villain. I was pretty sure when he repopped that it was this considering he checked the flop and stalled on my turn 1/2 pot raise.

    No Limit Holdem Tournament
    $8.00 $0.80
    9 players
    Converted at weaktight.com

    Stacks:
    UTG lilian91 (1905)
    UTG 1 tonimaroni65 (9050)
    MP1 DKANEB (3644)
    MP2 RickDeallio (3080)
    MP3 hud1593 (5716)
    CO huxt13 (2786)
    BTN Barycenter (5719)
    SB Hero (7890)
    BB AcesFull1905 (1965)

    Blinds: 40/80

    Pre-flop: (120, 9 players) Hero is SB : :
    lilian91 calls 80, 1 fold, DKANEB raises to 320, 4 folds, Hero calls 280, 1 fold, lilian91 calls 240

    Flop: : : : (1,040, 3 players)
    Hero checks, lilian91 checks, DKANEB checks

    Turn: : (1,040, 3 players)
    Hero bets 500, lilian91 folds, DKANEB calls 500

    River: : (2,040, 2 players)
    Hero bets 1,200, DKANEB raises to 2,400, Hero raises to 4,080, DKANEB goes all-in 424

    Final Pot: 7,688
    DKANEB shows: : :
    Hero shows: : :

    DKANEB wins 7,688 ( won 4,044 )
    Hero wins 1,256 ( lost -3,644 )
    lilian91 lost -320

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    I was happy to see this hand. How sick right? When he repopped I instantly thought about how he was last to act and did not C-bet. I really don't think I had a choice though. Either way I ended up stacking a short stack 2 hands later with jacks full so I'm not too depressed. Either way I wanted to post this for some reason. I guess maybe to ask........if you're almost certain that he's full up with kings do you play it any different? I feel that I shouldn't have played it different.

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    Set over set is rare (im aware you both had boats but im just saying from a set over set perspective). I don't think many people could have got away from this hand after hitting the boat on the turn. You know a 3 isn't likely and that AK with a flat call is possible. The check on the flop with 2 spades out can either be a donk who doesn't kno to bet to close out any flush draws. His range depending on your read of him could be fairly strong ranging from 88+ to ATs+ and the call on the turn could definitely scream I'm chasing a flush which I now caught on the river.

    Its a tough spot for anyone. Even if you cbet that flop and just get called.. the turn is going to string you away for more of your stack regardless.

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    You should bet more on the turn.

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    preflop is bad

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    Quote Originally Posted by squeezyplayer View Post
    preflop is bad
    stacks are deep enough to setmine here, open limper may be a concern though.
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    I like PF a lot more if hero is in position but so long as you play fit-or-fold postflop it's not a huge error imo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by squeezyplayer View Post
    preflop is bad
    Explain yourself.

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    I don't like pre-flop mainly because while hero's stack size is decent, PFR's stack size is only about 11x the raise. I usually go for 15-20x stack sizes when set mining to a PF raise.

    I understand current logic dictates that it's 10x but I feel that I can only use 10x if I'm sure I'm going to stack the guy when my set hits. Since I feel I need some wiggle room for the times I hit my set but drive him off his hand, I need to cover those times with the extra chips I get when I hit and do stack them.

    As played, I don't see you getting away from it. There are so many times this guy is going to show down something like AQs for the rivered flush that make this kind of play worth it. His flat on the turn almost screams nut flush draw. Chalk it up as a cooler and move on
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    PF is debatable but not bad I think.

    Also, Trons, I'm pretty sure no one is advocating folding a boat with 90BB effective stacks in a micro tournament.

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