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  1. #1
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    Default Xopods vs. 22Fish

    Just played a couple of $10 HU games with 22Fish to see how his game is, now that he's giving it a shot. He's pretty good. Should be able to kill $10-20 for sure.

    Here's the hand we both agreed we wanted to do a post-mortem on. I have a feeling he's going to be a little miffed when he sees what I actually had. As he said, he was putting me on a draw, and "the whole damn lot got there." That's kind of what I was counting on, though I did have plenty of outs if he had anything other than the flush himself.

    He did go on to win this game, however.

    Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, 10+0.50 Tournament, 15/30 Blinds (2 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

    Hero (SB) (t1365)
    Button (t1635)

    Hero's M: 30.33

    Preflop: Hero is SB with 10, K
    Button raises to t90, Hero calls t60

    Flop: (t180) 7, 10, J (2 players)
    Hero bets t120, Button raises to t300, Hero calls t180

    Turn: (t780) Q (2 players)
    Hero thinks for a while, then bets t975 (All-In), 22Fish thinks for ages and finally lays it down.

    Total pot: t780

    Results:
    Hero didn't show 10, K.
    Outcome: Hero won t780
    Last edited by Xopods; 02-09-2009 at 11:10 AM.

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    Well I can tell him right now his flop raise is way too small esp. on that board.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MJPerry View Post
    Well I can tell him right now his flop raise is way too small esp. on that board.
    I'd been a bit of a sissy up until this point though... he made that kind of raise a few times, and previously, I'd always called it and then folded when he hammered the next street. I think he figured I'd flat it with a draw and he was making sure the stack sizes were right for him to ensure my fold if the turn blanked, but that I'd push with e.g. KJ because of the draws and he could either fold or stack me, depending on what he had. The trouble with raising more here is that it pot commits him and gives me good implied odds if I do have a decent draw. He could push, but I can see how that might not be appealing depending on his hand.

    The main downside, of course, is what actually happened. By leaving himself enough chips to get away from the hand if a draw hits, he also leaves himself enough chips that I can bluff him if a draw hits but I don't actually have it.
    Last edited by Xopods; 02-09-2009 at 11:18 AM.

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    This was what I had, it wont make any sense, and you'll be surprised by how much of a decision the turn was.

    The decision was made eventually because I was WB or slightly ahead here, and I was WB just a bit to often.

    Full Tilt Poker, $10 + $0.50 NL Hold'em Sit n' Go, 15/30 Blinds, 2 Players
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    BB: 1,365
    Hero (SB): 1,635

    Pre-Flop: (45) J 4 dealt to Hero (SB)
    Hero raises to 90, BB calls 60

    Flop: (180) 7 T J (2 Players)
    BB bets 120, Hero raises to 300, BB calls 180

    Turn: (780) Q (2 Players)
    BB bets 975 and is All-In, Hero folds

    Results: 780 Pot
    BB mucked and WON 780 (+390 NET)

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    This is another reasonably interesting one at the time, I like this line though it was mainly because I hit big...

    Full Tilt Poker, $10 + $0.50 NL Hold'em Sit n' Go, 20/40 Blinds, 2 Players
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    SB: 1,335
    Hero (BB): 1,665

    Pre-Flop: (60) 4 6 dealt to Hero (BB)
    SB raises to 120, Hero calls 80

    Flop: (240) 3 Q J (2 Players)
    Hero bets 140, SB calls 140

    Turn: (520) 5 (2 Players)
    Hero checks, SB bets 360, Hero raises to 1,405 and is All-In, SB folds

    Results: 1,240 Pot
    Hero mucked 4 6 and WON 1,240 (+620 NET

    If you can rember any other interesting ones I'll try and find them later.

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    theoretically, you shouldn't have a donkbet/call range on a JT7 two-tone flop with <50bb stacks. there's enough draws that you would just 3bet shove a strong hand so it's hard to rep something big by flatting. additionally, if you had a decent draw you would want to just 3b-ship to put in the last bet. so b/3b with stuff like KJ serves the dual purpose of not letting villain see a cheap turn in case he is drawing and balancing your range for the times you yourself are playing aggressive with a draw.

    and maybe 22fish somehow knew you were likely to flat, but i don't like his flop raise with TPNK for the complementary reason; he should expect to be facing a shove much of the time and his hand doesn't really have enough equity to be happy about getting all-in on this flop. he could raise/fold of course, but that would be wasting the value of his hand.

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    Nice play on the second hand. I had J9 there and took the bait. Had to bet, but couldn't call that push with second pair.

    The first one is tough for both of us. Maybe I should have C/Red the first one and folded to a push... I led out because I figured that was the surest way to figure out where I stood (and since he might theoretically check behind with a draw), and I only called his raise because it was so small... I figured he'd put me on a draw, and if a scare card came out, I could use that to get to a showdown cheaply by checking the turn and making a blocking bet on the river that would likely look like a value bet. Or, if it was a sufficiently scary card, as it was, then I might be able to bluff him. As I said, I had played my draws pretty loose-passively up until now in the fact of his constant raising, and I knew he'd noticed.

    And, of course, his most likely holding was some random J, so I could likely double up if I did hit my 5-outer. Maybe not with the K clubs, but any of the other four.
    Last edited by Xopods; 02-09-2009 at 01:12 PM.

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