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    Poker Hustler 4tun8's Avatar
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    Default Would it be so bad to fold everything the first hour?

    Increase PF bet my ass........nothing works. If I would have pushed all in PF I would have still got at least 2 callers.


    No Limit Holdem Tournament
    $4.00 $0.40
    8 players
    Converted at weaktight.com

    Stacks:
    UTG What_A_Chump (1500)
    UTG 1 dale morris (1500)
    MP1 All Out Joe (1360)
    MP2 Hero (1500)
    CO buriani (1470)
    BTN wackaboom (1930)
    SB Ladratov (1380)
    BB ltm12 (1400)

    Blinds: 10/20

    Pre-flop: (30, 8 players) Hero is MP2 : :
    1 fold, dale morris calls 20, 1 fold, Hero raises to 140, buriani calls 140, wackaboom calls 140, 2 folds, dale morris calls 120

    Flop: : : : (590, 4 players)
    dale morris checks, Hero checks, Hero says "you all must have amazing hands", buriani checks, wackaboom checks

    Turn: : (590, 4 players)
    dale morris checks, Hero checks, buriani bets 100, 1 fold, dale morris calls 100, Hero calls 100

    River: : (890, 3 players)
    dale morris checks, Hero checks, buriani bets 460, dale morris folds, Hero calls 460, Hero says "nice call with 8T"

    Final Pot: 1,810
    Hero shows: : :
    buriani shows: : :

    buriani wins 1,810 ( won 1,110 )
    Hero lost -700
    wackaboom lost -140
    dale morris lost -240

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    I've never brought into the whole 'overbet PF' strategy in low-stakes MTTs anyway.

    Then again I fucking suck at MTTs.

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    Well I normally don't. Normally I just bet out 3 or 4x and then I fold to that 100 bet and I normally make out just fine. I play it this way at the advice of people here. Maybe I should stick to my way PF.

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    I fold the turn. The usual hands that call that big of a PF raise are mid PP, SC, suited aces, and broadway type hands. With a bet and a call, one of them probably has at least a pair, but sets are definitely a possibility, and since an 8 makes a straight, it's just not a good time to be calling with naked overs.
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    even getting 7:1, turn is a snap fold

    the way you played the hand made you seem very tilted

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4tun8 View Post
    Increase PF bet my ass........nothing works. If I would have pushed all in PF I would have still got at least 2 callers.
    so put your money where your mouth is and do it

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    The reason to overbet pre is that fish would rather put in the monies behind before the cards come up, their biggest leak is PF therefore that is the time to exploit it.

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    Folding everything for the first hour is horrible, really horrible.

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    I don't play AQ until the blinds are worth attacking. In the first few stages I simply try to see cheap flops with pairs 22-JJ, and bigger SCs 9T+. other than that I over-bet QQ-AA giving 7 to 1 implied odds to my opponents at best.

    In fact, his call with 8T isn't that bad, he's getting 10 to 1. Again, cut down the table talk. And I agree, how the hell are you calling on the turn?????
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