or should i just shove

PokerStars Game #22292254477: Tournament #122404030, $3.00+$0.25 Hold'em No Limit - Level VIII (200/400) - 2008/11/23 10:44:38 ET
Table '122404030 1' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: exrodeo (3130 in chips)
Seat 4: fidamo (6235 in chips)
Seat 5: FrenzyNL (3350 in chips)
Seat 6: dtsteve (6880 in chips)
Seat 7: odos (1525 in chips)
Seat 8: Alwilda (2230 in chips)
Seat 9: obga (5845 in chips)
exrodeo: posts the ante 25
fidamo: posts the ante 25
FrenzyNL: posts the ante 25
dtsteve: posts the ante 25
odos: posts the ante 25
Alwilda: posts the ante 25
obga: posts the ante 25
Alwilda: posts small blind 200
obga: posts big blind 400
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to obga [ ]
exrodeo: folds
fidamo: folds
FrenzyNL: folds
dtsteve: raises 800 to 1200
odos: raises 300 to 1500 and is all-in
Alwilda: folds
obga: raises 2600 to 4100
dtsteve: calls 2900
*** FLOP *** [ ]
obga: bets 1720 and is all-in
dtsteve: calls 1720
obga said, "lol"
obga said, "unreal"
*** TURN *** [ ] []
*** RIVER *** [ ] []
obga said, "u call a reraise with that ****"
*** SHOW DOWN ***
obga: shows [ ] (two pair, Kings and Deuces)
dtsteve: shows [ ] (a full house, Nines full of Deuces)
dtsteve collected 8640 from side pot
odos: shows [ ] (two pair, Threes and Deuces)
obga said, "wow"
obga said, "thats bad"
dtsteve collected 4875 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 13515 Main pot 4875. Side pot 8640. | Rake 0
Board [9d 8c 2h 4d 2c]
Seat 1: exrodeo folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: fidamo folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: FrenzyNL folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: dtsteve showed [9s 9h] and won (13515) with a full house, Nines full of Deuces
Seat 7: odos (button) showed [3h 3c] and lost with two pair, Threes and Deuces
Seat 8: Alwilda (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 9: obga (big blind) showed [Kh Ks] and lost with two pair, Kings and Deuces

lol, just shove - why leave yourself 4BBs behind?

It's fine, so is shoving.

There are a lot of horrible players that play in $20 or less buy-ins.

I got screwed close to the same way. About 1/3 of the field left. MP1 limps, I re-raise to 6x bb. MP3 goes all in with AJ suited Button calls with AQ off, MP1 raises to all in with 6's, I re-raise to all in with KK, Button calls.

Who wins? The donk with 6's. That's why MTT's are so hard to survive. You can play perfectly, but run into enough lucky donks and they'll bust you. If you go in as a 3 to 1 fav 3 times, your still likely to bust.

Originally Posted by PokerJack222

It's fine, so is shoving.

There are a lot of horrible players that play in $20 or less buy-ins.

I got screwed close to the same way. About 1/3 of the field left. MP1 limps, I re-raise to 6x bb. MP3 goes all in with AJ suited Button calls with AQ off, MP1 raises to all in with 6's, I re-raise to all in with KK, Button calls.

Who wins? The donk with 6's. That's why MTT's are so hard to survive. You can play perfectly, but run into enough lucky donks and they'll bust you. If you go in as a 3 to 1 fav 3 times, your still going to profit.

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Originally Posted by tightagressive

river rats..... how is this a thread? you have kings and get 2 outed, what do you want people to tell you to do, fold on the flop? LOL

+1

Just shove that preflop and let probability do the rest.

Easy shove pre flop