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    Staff News Poster MJPerry's Avatar
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    Default Probably stupid question but I always go broke here right?

    Villian is 34/29, ASB is 38. lol, it's definitely a stupid question. Move this to River Rats, I'm just tilted.

    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2.00+$0.20 Tournament, 150/300 Blinds 25 Ante (6 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

    SB (t9139)
    BB (t16565)
    UTG (t26312)
    MP (t5917)
    CO (t16158)
    Hero (Button) (t17075)

    Hero's M: 28.46

    Preflop: Hero is Button with A, K
    1 fold, MP calls t300, CO raises to t2400, Hero raises to t6900, 3 folds, CO raises to t16133 (All-In), Hero calls t9233

    Flop: (t33166) 4, J, 9 (2 players, 1 all-in)

    Turn: (t33166) 9 (2 players, 1 all-in)

    River: (t33166) 6 (2 players, 1 all-in)

    Total pot: t33166

    Results in white below:
    Hero had A, K (one pair, nines).
    CO had K, K (two pair, Kings and nines).
    Outcome: CO won t33166

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    I think I would fold there. I hate calling with AK. You lose a big chunk of your stack but you would still have enough chips left to continue with the blinds where they are. Your M ends up a little less than 17 which is healthy enough that you aren't that crippled.

    His chip stack isn't low so he isn't desperate, meaning he isn't pushing with KQ, QJ and the other broadways, other than AK maybe. Same with the AX range, he just doesn't need to be doing that at this stage. I would be thinking he has a pair, and probably a decent one like 88+ and that if I call I am behind, so why take that chance.

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    I need like 38% to call his shove after my 3bet.

    Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

    143,833,536 games 0.005 secs 28,766,707,200 games/sec

    Board:
    Dead:

    equity win tie pots won pots tied
    Hand 0: 41.904% 22.62% 19.28% 32535636 27736416.00 { AKs }
    Hand 1: 58.096% 38.81% 19.28% 55825068 27736416.00 { QQ+, AKs, AKo }

    That's vs a very tight range and this guy can shove JJ and maybe even AQ here too.

    Nevertheless, MTTs tilt me so hard.

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    That gives you the odds but it's a pretty thin percent advantage to be putting your tourney life on the line with.

    I don't think Harrington would approve lol.

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    I don't reraise often with AKs. The only time I will is if it's an overly aggressive player and if so I'm calling his shove here with it. I probably would have flatted.

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    Easy call IMO, TT+ AJ+ and KQ seemed to be what I was getting called by at these stakes. I find they cannot bet/fold so likely just stick it in after he bets. Though it would be nice to know what he raises to 8BB. I just noticed its 6max...call!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ColdHardMetal View Post
    I think I would fold there. I hate calling with AK. You lose a big chunk of your stack but you would still have enough chips left to continue with the blinds where they are. Your M ends up a little less than 17 which is healthy enough that you aren't that crippled.

    His chip stack isn't low so he isn't desperate, meaning he isn't pushing with KQ, QJ and the other broadways, other than AK maybe. Same with the AX range, he just doesn't need to be doing that at this stage. I would be thinking he has a pair, and probably a decent one like 88+ and that if I call I am behind, so why take that chance.
    no horrible advice

    Quote Originally Posted by 4tun8 View Post
    I don't reraise often with AKs. The only time I will is if it's an overly aggressive player and if so I'm calling his shove here with it. I probably would have flatted.
    You often should

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    Quote Originally Posted by tightagressive View Post
    no horrible advice
    Okay then.

    In a situation where you are basically going to be eliminated if you lose, why is putting yourself in a race where you are chasing the right thing to do?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ColdHardMetal View Post
    Okay then.

    In a situation where you are basically going to be eliminated if you lose, why is putting yourself in a race where you are chasing the right thing to do?
    You are playing to win, and in order to do so you need to press almost every small edge you can and get lucky to do so. if you make folds like this you will never make money playing poker tournaments. idk what else to say. How can you 3b fold AKs 6 handed? lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by tightagressive View Post
    You are playing to win, and in order to do so you need to press almost every small edge you can and get lucky to do so. if you make folds like this you will never make money playing poker tournaments. idk what else to say. How can you 3b fold AKs 6 handed? lol

    Oh, okay, I totally agree with that. There are certainly times you need to gamble on narrow edges.

    I just think that in this situation it isn't necessary given the size of his chip stack and that he could continue to play for the win from a better situation later on. If he had the guy covered by more than a few thousand chips it would make more sense to me as well. In my mind he is in a middle ground where his stack isn't too low, and isn't high enough, for him to make this call.

    I'm glad that's your reason actually, I was half expecting something really bizarre.

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