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    Mike McDermott Bagonirix's Avatar
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    Default OMG what do we do here?

    PokerStars Game #21820409157: Tournament #118861797, $11+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level XVII (2000/4000) - 2008/11/06 21:22:51 ET
    Table '118861797 8' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
    Seat 1: Bagonirix (34124 in chips)
    Seat 2: akwaki (12768 in chips)
    Seat 4: 4check (71058 in chips)
    Seat 6: evildoughboy (21032 in chips)
    Seat 7: zazou6944 (26722 in chips)
    Seat 8: Vatoom (51693 in chips)
    Seat 9: NW Star (52603 in chips)
    Bagonirix: posts the ante 400
    akwaki: posts the ante 400
    4check: posts the ante 400
    evildoughboy: posts the ante 400
    zazou6944: posts the ante 400
    Vatoom: posts the ante 400
    NW Star: posts the ante 400
    NW Star: posts small blind 2000
    Bagonirix: posts big blind 4000
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to Bagonirix [ ]
    akwaki: folds
    4check: folds
    evildoughboy: raises 16632 to 20632 and is all-in
    zazou6944: folds
    Vatoom: calls 20632
    NW Star: folds
    Bagonirix: ???
    idkmybffjill?

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    Without a read that Vatoom only does this with AA or KK, I shove and hope for the best.

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    c'mon , you know we cant fold with this stack
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    Quote Originally Posted by sk8freak_21 View Post
    c'mon , you know we cant fold with this stack
    Not even with a strong read the caller only has AA or KK here?

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    Quote Originally Posted by triple-t View Post
    Not even with a strong read the caller only has AA or KK here?
    With a strong read maybe fold. With that few chips though this is probably about the best chance you're going to get given the blind level etc.

    I would call but I wouldn't like it.

    He probably turns over a pair, but maybe not even that good because he's more desperate than you are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by triple-t View Post
    Not even with a strong read the caller only has AA or KK here?
    It's 5 BB's... raisers range is HUGE and the big stack sees this with AJ. I re-push here.
    "People are always blaming their circumstances for what they are. I don't believe in circumstances. The people who get on in this world are the people who get up and look for the circumstances they want, and if they can't find them, they make them." - George Bernard Shaw

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pinguaq View Post
    It's 5 BB's... raisers range is HUGE and the big stack sees this with AJ. I re-push here.
    Re-push is good. Try and isolate the first guy. You won't have enough chips left to matter if you lose this one so you might as well get it all in now.

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    guys you have pokerstove available to you for a reason

    i dont play tournaments so i've got no idea but it seems pretty dumb to fold

    equity win tie pots won pots tied
    Hand 0: 21.287% 20.37% 00.92% 1380457572 62447174.33 { 22+, A2s+, KTs+, A2o+, KTo+ }
    Hand 1: 40.466% 38.09% 02.38% 2581650687 161256288.83 { 22+, AJs+, KQs, AJo+, KQo }
    Hand 2: 38.248% 35.47% 02.79% 2403631710 188935097.83 { AKo }

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    bag this is a shove and you know it

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    This is a snap-shove, surely?

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