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    Staff News Poster MJPerry's Avatar
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    Default Middle stack vs. loose raiser - what's your shoving range?

    It's 100/200/25a at a nine-handed table.

    Loose-aggressive player makes it 925 from EP. He has about 12k behind. Folds to us in the CO, all stacks behind us are around 5-8k.

    We've got 3.8k, do you shove with:

    ATo?
    55?
    KJs?

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    has anyone played back at him yet? Did he call or fold??
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    Pre-flop he raises a lot and tends to call 3-bet non-allins.

    On the flop (not that it matters in this scenario) he switches to a complete station and calls down with mid pair.

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    how often had he been raising from in EP?

    what are the stacks of the players in the blinds?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MJPerry View Post
    Pre-flop he raises a lot and tends to call 3-bet non-allins.

    On the flop (not that it matters in this scenario) he switches to a complete station and calls down with mid pair.
    sounds like I'm not folding ATo or 55

    maybe KJs but I shove KQs for sure

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    hmmm, against a player like this I'd consider all those hands pretty similar. I'll probably be a 55/45-60/40 favorite over his range with those 3 hands. I'm really not shoving any of them unless I have decent fold equity from the aggro. At this blind level and with my stack I can find a better spot to get my $$$ in than being 60/40.

    I gave him a range of 44% of his hands and stove says it's 55/45, and I doubt he's that loose

    I'd rather see someone else (or multiple people) call his raise before i shove, so if someone in the blinds, or the button, or the aggro, wakes up with a hand I'll be getting pretty good odds.

    depending on the tendencies of the 3 players to act after me, those hands would be shovable.

    You really picked 3 hands that could go either way...........
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    I think you have fold equity if it's an all in, he doesn't seem to like calling shoves even if he'd call a 4k bet from a 15k stack.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve-O View Post
    At this blind level and with my stack I can find a better spot to get my $$$ in than being 60/40.
    you realize its 250 500 and we have 3800 chips right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tightagressive View Post
    you realize its 250 500 and we have 3800 chips right?
    It's 100/200/25a; we have about 19BBs so it's a decent resteal stack in this situation.

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    no i understand we have a great resteal stack i was just thinking for some reason it was 250 500...

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