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Old 05-06-2008, 11:42 AM
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Default KK vs 99 twice in one day

Overbetting K's or Bad luck? Lets hear it. Im open to opinions, hands like these have been killing me late in tournaments. The $2.20 tourney I was 2nd in chip stacks, after this hand I was out like 5 hands later with J's against K's.

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SB (t276029)
Hero (t171401)
UTG (t128443)
UTG+1 (t134180)
MP1 (t130309)
MP2 (t316324)
CO (t74420)
Button (t196257)

Preflop: Hero is BB with , .
4 folds, CO raises to t18000, 1 fold, SB calls t15000, Hero raises to t88000, CO calls t55820 (All-In), SB folds.

Flop: (t180420) , , (2 players, 1 all-in)

Turn: (t180420) (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: (t180420) (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: t180420

Results in white below:
Hero has Kh Ks (two pair, kings and queens).
CO has 9c 9s (full house, nines full of queens).
Outcome: CO wins t166240. Hero wins t14180.



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Button (t1390)
Hero (t1145)
BB (t2385)
UTG (t4080)

Preflop: Hero is SB with , .
UTG raises to t300, 1 fold, Hero raises to t1145, 1 fold, UTG calls t845.

Flop: (t2440) , , (2 players)

Turn: (t2440) (2 players)

River: (t2440) (2 players)

Final Pot: t2440

Results in white below:
UTG has 9h 9c (straight, queen high).
Hero has Kd Ks (one pair, kings).
Outcome: UTG wins t2440.
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Old 05-06-2008, 12:20 PM
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both are fine and just plain unlucky


(im gonna delete ur double post as KK v 99 is bad enough twice in one but twice in one day in two identical threads is bordering on my kinda luck )
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Old 05-06-2008, 12:29 PM
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Sorry I hadnt noticed it posted twice...thanks for deleting it though.
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You were ahead when the money went in on both hands. Well done.
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lol @ thinking all-in preflop with KK is overbetting.
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No....its not lol. Whats lol..is the fact that this keeps happening to me. I either play for a couple hours and make it late in the tourney or it happens right away. Either way, I get taken out then or soon after. So thats why I was wondering if I was overbetting them. Because it usually costs me the majority of my chips, if not all of them. When they dont hold up. Should I just be raising/reraising 5-8x BB, preflop instead of pushing after a reraise? Seems like if I raise 3x I get called with anything.

Yesterday I was beat by J7 against QQ in a $25 SNG. He flopped middle pair with his 7, flop was 9 7 3. No flush draws. I reraised his bet and he called. The turn a 4, he bet, I pushed. River gives him 2 pair. I was getting tired of getting worked by hands like these in the $5-10 SNG's so I played a couple $25-35 games. What happens? The same exact thing.
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Stop playing tourneys and start playing cash. End of problem.
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god this never ever happens unbelievable poker is rigged
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Old 05-08-2008, 07:09 AM
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Really? Do you have proof? Share this information with us. We can unify everyones thoughts, and plan a strategy for the collapse of PS. So we can ease this fictitious grip that they have placed on our wallets.


Ive thought about the cash game idea for a while, maybe its time for the transition.
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Old 05-08-2008, 10:04 AM
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Here's another one..although this one I completely facked up.

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SB (t210)
BB (t1720)
UTG (t2550)
UTG+1 (t1520)
MP1 (t4920)
Hero (t1675)
MP3 (t2900)
CO (t1485)
Button (t1130)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with , .
UTG calls t30, 2 folds, Hero raises to t120, 3 folds, SB raises to t210, 1 fold, UTG calls t180, Hero raises to t300, UTG calls t90.

Flop: (t840) , , (3 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets t150, UTG calls t150.

Turn: (t1140) (3 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks.

River: (t1140) (3 players)
UTG bets t450, Hero calls t450.

Final Pot: t2040

Results in white below:
SB has 9d 9c (one pair, nines).
UTG has 6c 3c (two pair, sixes and threes).
Hero has Ks Kd (one pair, kings).
Outcome: UTG wins t2040.
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