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05-06-2008, 11:42 AM
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Fish
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KK vs 99 twice in one day
Overbetting K's or Bad luck? Lets hear it. Im open to opinions, hands like these have been killing me late in tournaments. The $2.20 tourney I was 2nd in chip stacks, after this hand I was out like 5 hands later with J's against K's.
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t6000 (8 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of Poker coaching - Get an online poker lesson - texas holdem strategy for real poker
SB (t276029)
Hero (t171401)
UTG (t128443)
UTG+1 (t134180)
MP1 (t130309)
MP2 (t316324)
CO (t74420)
Button (t196257)
Preflop: Hero is BB with  ,  .
4 folds, CO raises to t18000, 1 fold, SB calls t15000, Hero raises to t88000, CO calls t55820 (All-In), SB folds.
Flop: (t180420)  ,  , (2 players, 1 all-in)
Turn: (t180420) (2 players, 1 all-in)
River: (t180420) (2 players, 1 all-in)
Final Pot: t180420
Results in white below:
Hero has Kh Ks (two pair, kings and queens).
CO has 9c 9s (full house, nines full of queens).
Outcome: CO wins t166240. Hero wins t14180.
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t150 (4 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of Poker coaching - Get an online poker lesson - texas holdem strategy for real poker
Button (t1390)
Hero (t1145)
BB (t2385)
UTG (t4080)
Preflop: Hero is SB with  ,  .
UTG raises to t300, 1 fold, Hero raises to t1145, 1 fold, UTG calls t845.
Flop: (t2440)  ,  , (2 players)
Turn: (t2440) (2 players)
River: (t2440) (2 players)
Final Pot: t2440
Results in white below:
UTG has 9h 9c (straight, queen high).
Hero has Kd Ks (one pair, kings).
Outcome: UTG wins t2440.
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05-06-2008, 12:20 PM
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both are fine and just plain unlucky
(im gonna delete ur double post as KK v 99 is bad enough twice in one but twice in one day in two identical threads is bordering on my kinda luck )
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05-06-2008, 12:29 PM
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Fish
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Sorry I hadnt noticed it posted twice...thanks for deleting it though.
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05-06-2008, 09:50 PM
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NL20 Grinder...
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You were ahead when the money went in on both hands. Well done.
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05-07-2008, 08:10 AM
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Mike McDermott
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lol @ thinking all-in preflop with KK is overbetting.
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05-07-2008, 11:22 AM
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Fish
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No....its not lol. Whats lol..is the fact that this keeps happening to me. I either play for a couple hours and make it late in the tourney or it happens right away. Either way, I get taken out then or soon after. So thats why I was wondering if I was overbetting them. Because it usually costs me the majority of my chips, if not all of them. When they dont hold up. Should I just be raising/reraising 5-8x BB, preflop instead of pushing after a reraise? Seems like if I raise 3x I get called with anything.
Yesterday I was beat by J7 against QQ in a $25 SNG. He flopped middle pair with his 7, flop was 9 7 3. No flush draws. I reraised his bet and he called. The turn a 4, he bet, I pushed. River gives him 2 pair. I was getting tired of getting worked by hands like these in the $5-10 SNG's so I played a couple $25-35 games. What happens? The same exact thing.
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05-07-2008, 09:38 PM
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NL20 Grinder...
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Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Portland, OR
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Stop playing tourneys and start playing cash. End of problem.
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05-07-2008, 11:03 PM
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Poker Professional
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god this never ever happens unbelievable poker is rigged
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05-08-2008, 07:09 AM
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Fish
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Really? Do you have proof? Share this information with us. We can unify everyones thoughts, and plan a strategy for the collapse of PS. So we can ease this fictitious grip that they have placed on our wallets.
Ive thought about the cash game idea for a while, maybe its time for the transition.
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05-08-2008, 10:04 AM
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Fish
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Join Date: Mar 2008
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Here's another one..although this one I completely facked up.
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (9 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of Poker coaching - Get an online poker lesson - texas holdem strategy for real poker
SB (t210)
BB (t1720)
UTG (t2550)
UTG+1 (t1520)
MP1 (t4920)
Hero (t1675)
MP3 (t2900)
CO (t1485)
Button (t1130)
Preflop: Hero is MP2 with  ,  .
UTG calls t30, 2 folds, Hero raises to t120, 3 folds, SB raises to t210, 1 fold, UTG calls t180, Hero raises to t300, UTG calls t90.
Flop: (t840)  ,  , (3 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets t150, UTG calls t150.
Turn: (t1140) (3 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks.
River: (t1140) (3 players)
UTG bets t450, Hero calls t450.
Final Pot: t2040
Results in white below:
SB has 9d 9c (one pair, nines).
UTG has 6c 3c (two pair, sixes and threes).
Hero has Ks Kd (one pair, kings).
Outcome: UTG wins t2040.
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