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Old 04-18-2008, 01:18 PM
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What do you think?

Stars $50 freezeout. Player info: SB total fish, MP1 marginal winner. Too tight?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t20 (9 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

UTG (t3030)
UTG+1 (t3030)
MP1 (t2990)
MP2 (t2960)
MP3 (t2970)
Hero (t4330)
Button (t2880)
SB (t1800)
BB (t3000)

Preflop: Hero is CO with A, A.
2 folds, MP1 calls t20, 2 folds, Hero raises to t100, 1 fold, SB calls t90, 1 fold, MP1 calls t80.

Flop: (t320) 9, 8, Q (3 players)
SB checks, MP1 checks, Hero bets t200, SB folds, MP1 raises to t600, Hero calls t400.

Turn: (t1520) T (2 players)
MP1 bets t1000, Hero folds.

Final Pot: t1520

Results in white below:
No showdown. MP1 wins t1520.
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Old 04-19-2008, 07:57 AM
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Easy turn fold. Even that flop is kinda scary for you.
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Old 04-19-2008, 11:38 PM
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Easy fold on turn, but I would push that flop most of the time with all those draws out there...you can't really put him on j10, and if he has trips...pay him off.
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Old 04-20-2008, 01:56 AM
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Easy fold on turn, but I would push that flop most of the time with all those draws out there...you can't really put him on j10, and if he has trips...pay him off.
good idea, but look at pot size (& I got 200 bbs behind)

against just the fish pushing would be a reasonable play though (he committed 150bbs with middle pair earlier), but it was the marginal winner who was in the hand still and raised.
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Old 05-05-2008, 04:57 PM
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I wouldn't be corncerned with walking away becuase at that point he only needed the J to win. and too many likely 2 cards combinations will also give win thru 2 pair trips etc.

Just a thought:
If the cards shown where good for a 7 and just maybe an 8 high straight draw I would have pushed all in becuase what are the odds of a player calling with 84 or 73 with a bet 4xBBs

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Old 05-05-2008, 10:25 PM
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fold it bud. still pretty deep.
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Old 05-15-2008, 06:14 AM
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Good fold at the turn, but most of the time i will move all in at the flop!
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Old 05-20-2008, 07:54 AM
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It's a no brainer, it had to be folded at the turn. Prior to that though, I'd have been moving all-in after the re-raise.
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Old 05-20-2008, 08:46 AM
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I don't understand how everyone can be so confident that moving in on the flop is the best play. A marginal winner never has air here, it's almost always a slightly ahead/way behind situation.

I don't hate folding the flop
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Old 05-20-2008, 03:16 PM
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MP1 I would think has AQ if he seems fairly solid and has called you PF and raised you on the flop, he could be putting you on AK and think he has you dominated right there.
Although he did only limp/call preflop so maybe not... I think it was a good fold on the turn but I might have shoved the flop.
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