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  1. #1
    Fish Food
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    Default Bad play or just unlucky?

    Hi

    Book seems to say push?

    Any comments?

    Table "6595472 - 5" Seat 9 is the button.
    Seat 1: Player 1 (4005 in chips)
    Seat 2: Player 2 (16756 in chips)
    Seat 3: Player 3 (2780 in chips)
    Seat 4: Player 4 (5835 in chips)
    Seat 5: Player 5 sits out
    Seat 8: Player 6 (7795 in chips)
    Seat 9: Hero (4429 in chips)
    Seat 10: Villian (8104 in chips)
    Player 1: posts the ante 50
    Player 2: posts the ante 50
    Player 3: posts the ante 50
    Player 4: posts the ante 50
    Player 5: posts the ante 50
    Player 6: posts the ante 50
    Player 7: posts the ante 50
    Hero: posts the ante 50
    Villian: posts small blind 200
    Player 9: posts big blind 400
    ----- HOLE CARDS -----
    dealt to Hero [Qc 3h]
    Player 1: folds
    Player 2: folds
    Player 3 sits back
    Player 4: folds
    Player 5: folds
    Player 6: folds
    Hero: raises to 4379 and is all-in
    Villian: calls 4179
    Player 9: folds
    ----- FLOP ----- [Qh 2h Kd]
    ----- TURN ----- [Qh 2h Kd][4h]
    ----- RIVER ----- [Qh 2h Kd 4h][Qd]
    ----- SHOW DOWN -----
    Hero: shows [Qc 3h] (Three of a kind, Queens, King high)
    Villian: shows [Kh Jh] (A Flush, King high)
    Villian collected 9558 from Main pot
    ----- SUMMARY -----
    Total pot 9558 Main pot 9558 Rake 0
    Board [Qh 2h Kd 4h Qd]

  2. #2
    Fish Food Sunshine's Avatar
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    i think it was a good spot to push, regardless of your cards..you just got screwed.

  3. #3
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    this is almost completely read/table dependent

    if my table image and reads on the villain are optimal, I push any two cards there...but you have to use extra discretion when it's the chip leader.

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    I push there also
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  5. #5
    Mike McDermott
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    it is profitable to push ATC here most of the time, nh

  6. #6
    River Rat
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    What tournament was it, small stakes or bigger? If it was a $1 MTT, I'd probably fold here, you'll get plenty of opportunities with real hands and blinds aren't going to always understand that calling here with K2o is a bad idea.

    As long as neither blind are calling too much, and seem to be playing pretty straight forward, I think a shove is acceptable. You don't want to see a showdown with this hand, so I'd only be doing it where I think they are folding a lot of blinds.
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    Stu Ungar OrionPro's Avatar
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    probably good push, but payouts, buyin, reads can be important here

  8. #8
    River Rat
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    For 1000 extra chips you won't be much better off. Probably a fold and wait for better cards.

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