Hello

The hand in questions wasn't the actual hand that knocked me out of the torny, but i feel it was a major hand none the less.

the torny started with 160 runners and it was down to the final 20 or so, with the top 6 getting seats worth 5-10 grand, if you include prize money also.

I had 16000 in my stack and the blinds were at 1200 and 600 with a 200 ante on a 9 handed table.

i had just stole the last to blinds pre-flop with trash and picked up AQ. And i raised to 4000. I'm thinking now, that i should of probably of just moved all in? 16000 at the time btw was the average stack.

Anyways, i got a button call and everyone else folded.

Flop came 239 and i checked, button bet 4000 and i folded....

I can't stop wrecking my head with how bad i played this! Firstly, id seen the player on the button make a lot of speculative bets and calls... therefore, he could quite easily have the 9... but even if he does and i move all in, i have two outs in my overs. And what was the check all about... the only possible reason i should be checking here (with blinds etc and what's in pot) is to check raise...?

My thought process now is that i should have moved in and said, look, if you have over pair, 9 or AK then so be it. Ak might of folded too.

I feel that because of the importance of the prizes i was unable to pull the trigger and make the correct play... which cost me as i didn't pick up a hand or a situation to make any more plays until i got even more short stacked, pushed for a 50/50 and lost, finishing 19th. Whereas if id followed through i would of had around 24000 and been in a much better position to finish in the top 6...

Any thoughts?

Sorry if its all a bit mumble jumble, i'm still a bit muble jumble in my head over it all...

Thanks

Here comes some advice from a horrible tournament player, so read with caution.

Personally, at this stage of a satellite tournament this big, I'm only playing hands I'd push pre-flop with. AQ is very close, but I still think I'm folding this pre-flop. Might be a different story with AK.

I'm curious to see some opinions on the better tournament players here.

reraising all in on the flop was the correct play, dunno why you folded

How can you assume this without a read?

He's feeling the same way.

Next time post the actual hand with a hand converter to give us a better understanding of the table situation. Depending on your chip stack, you probably should have pushed that flop. If you are the initial raiser, you have to follow it up post flop.

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Agreed, this was a weak play on your part. Just dont beat yourself up over it!

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you raised way too much preflop

i make it $1520 preflop and cbet the flop

lol, no way

hero makes it like 5-6x preflop for who knows what reason, when anyone cold calls this big of a pfr in this spot he pretty much has to have a pp, as played hero has to cf this flop

or bet and call a shove

cring is horrible here because villain is clearly committed with a pocket pair

Thanks for all your responces. I appreciate everyones comments.

Having discussed and thought about it a LOADS! I have come to the conclusion, that with that board i should of just shoved the flop. This would be my usual move, just froze with the prizes so near. An experience though = a lesson learnt.

Thanks again

Majestic

lol

TA, do u see that the blinds are 600/1200 w/ a 200 ante? so there is 1800+1200+600 = 36000 in the pot

IDK why you would raise to 1520 PF.... its not even a min raise, its essentially a limp. IMO your gonna get called by SB and BB alot here. Definitely by the BB, so you are never taking this pot down PF.

Also, IMO shoving flop is a very bad play. When are u gunna fold out a hand that beats you? Never IMO. Only AK and pps under 99 (that didn't hit set). The only thing you achieve is preventing a bluff. IMO you will never fold out pair of 9x and higher. Mainly b/c the guy that called you seems loose. You still have a ton of chips, so IDK why you would shove them in here when you are only getting called when you are behind.

I really doubt the pot is big enough for a shove to be +EV, especially since you are risking way more when you lose, then when you win.


Personally I would play it in several ways depending on the situation. You did not give any details about chip stacks, and how tough the tables was, how long blind levels were, what position you were in etc...

I think you can shove or make a 2.5x raise depending on the situation. Lots of times I will raise to like 12000 here and shove flop blindly. Instead of shoving all in PF. But that is in low stakes donkaments. I am pretty sure you should be getting raised al in whenever you raise over 4k instead of getting called, shich is why the villains play is very weird.

In your spot, I'm playing the hand the same way post. Pre, IDK.

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