Just seeing if this is super std or if I could get any more value out of it.

PokerStars No Limit Hold-em Tourney ($5.00+$0.50), Big Blind is t150 (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from triple-t
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saw flop|saw showdown

SB (t6060)
Hero (t5565)
UTG (t9664)
UTG+1 (t4225)
MP1 (t1955)
MP2 (t474)
MP3 (t6040)
CO (t5365)
Button (t3857)
Hero is BB with .
Pre-Flop:
1 folds, UTG+1 raises to t425, 4 folds, Button raises to t900, 1 folds, Hero raises to t5565 All-In, 2 folds.

Originally Posted by jharding666

If the button's 3bet had been larger I'd have been more tempted to flat call.

In this instance shoving seems the best option.

Since I only play small buy in tourneys I make it a rule to myself to get the most value of KK and AA to never call PF.

Perfect. You get called by a lot of hands that you are wayyyy ahead of like QQ and down and u might lose action to on the flop.

Originally Posted by multizen

i've been finding that if i shove pf someone will call with a decent hand but is behind. they usually turn or rivered me but if i had called pf and shove after flop i would have won and not get turn or rivered. is this a valid move for playing hands like AA, KK, AK, AQ? put bet big or call a big raise and shove on the flop to get the guy to fold and take down the pot

You don't want to go into the hand with the mindset that you are going to be "turned" or "rivered" you should always just be looking at it in a odds to win vs pot odds vs implied. If you start just assuming they are going to suck out on you it will happen more. I don't like playing monster PF hands postflop against multi opponents because I am not a solid enough player to lay them down yet in a profitable manner. If you think you can call and based on the flop texture know whether you are behind with AA KK QQ then be my guest and call big raises PF.

Originally Posted by jharding666

LOL

Preception is powerful imo.