99 - low M, 2 players already in the pot

**jharding666** · 01-20-2008

I don't even want to talk about how my stack got so low, tournaments are so rigged!

The guy who opened the pot here is a fairly conservative/solid player from what I've seen, although that was only 1 hand. He flat called an EP raise from EP with QQ and checked down an A high board.

Is this shove terrible? I was still steaming a bit from every other tournament I'd played last night, every one was sick!

Seat 1: Anhur (5,880)
Seat 3: ice2u2 (15,710)
Seat 4: StKolbe (21,943)
Seat 5: sidarthur (19,874)
Seat 6: thatsme32 (3,210)
Seat 7: goldsbs (16,583)
Seat 8: Jab 501 (7,623)
Seat 9: jharding666 (4,720)

Full Tilt (8 handed) Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 9

, 9

. SB posts a blind of 600.
1 fold, UTG raises, 2 folds, MP2 calls, Hero raises 4645 (All-In), 2 folds, UTG raises 21599 (All-In), MP2 calls 5748 (All-In).

Flop: 2

, J

, 8

(3 players, 3 all-in)

Turn: 2

(3 players, 3 all-in)

River: 4

(3 players, 3 all-in)

Final Pot:

**RakeGuard** · 01-20-2008

Line was fine there. You're low enough as it is, and you probably wont see a better hand before you blind out.

Gotta push those 9's there..hope for one of the others to fold. You're probably a huge dog or a coinflip, but you have to push there.

**5ive7even** · 01-20-2008

99 + low M = a push in any situation. imo.

**jharding666** · 01-20-2008

Wouldn't we rather push much weaker hands as the first one in?

**trippedupA-Town** · 01-20-2008

Originally Posted by jharding666

Wouldn't we rather push much weaker hands as the first one in?

how close are we to the money?

**trippedupA-Town** · 01-20-2008

i dunno, im folding only because UTG has a monster stack. if he plays that conservative we are dead to a coinflip at BEST. obv you know if he limped or it was open to you in the CO its an instant shove, but when a conservative UTG, deep stack raises, and im sitting with 99 and not very many chips, im gonna fold it. (not to mention he is almost guaranteed to call your shove getting that price)

**jharding666** · 01-20-2008

This was the $24+2 $24k guarantee on FTP with about 350 runners left, 216 getting paid

**trippedupA-Town** · 01-21-2008

Originally Posted by jharding666

This was the $24+2 $24k guarantee on FTP with about 350 runners left, 216 getting paid

man this is a brain buster now.

ill get back to you on it

**jharding666** · 01-21-2008

Originally Posted by trippedupA-Town

man this is a brain buster now.

ill get back to you on it

K, cheers mate

Any others have thoughts?

TA? Bag? Seany?

**DeeYakaBaka** · 01-21-2008

Originally Posted by jharding666

Wouldn't we rather push much weaker hands as the first one in?

to me, this would be the correct answer.

UTG is a conservative/solid player and hes obv gonna call so if ur happy to be at very best a coinflip, id push....otherwise, id wait.

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