Well I am almost short, and didn't know if I should insta fold(well actually I felt I should insta-fold but i never listen to myself). I figured the first shove was no big deal but then when the second guy shoved..i pooped my self.

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SB (t3455)
BB (t4016)
Hero (t2083)
UTG+1 (t2165)
MP1 (t5959)
MP2 (t1635)
MP3 (t1107)
CO (t5700)
Button (t2605)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with , .
Hero raises to t600, 2 folds, MP2 raises to t1635, 3 folds, SB raises to t3455, 1 fold, Hero dotdotdot

standard fold. you didnt invest enough to be committed.

Ya I figured...but of course i donked off

Originally Posted by youngplayer9

Ya I figured...but of course i donked off

Good call

Originally Posted by jharding666

Good call

i hope you arent saying the call he made in that hand was good...

Originally Posted by trippedupA-Town

i hope you arent saying the call he made in that hand was good...

Yes I am

Meh, we need to win 25% of the time

My thoughts for their ranges, obviously this is without any reads on the players:

MP2 pushes any pair because it's what he's seen on tv. From experience of playing these kind of levels I also remember seeing shoves with KQs type hands and various Ax hands. Your average $4 player doesn't even consider the fact that we raised from UTG and will be priced in to call his shove with our entire range.

SB's range I think is more questionable. He has more FE over us (granted he probably doesn't know what that means but he probably knows if he goes all in it is harder for us to call) and so can be trying to just isolate the guy who is all in. I don't think the range I have assigned is unrealistic and I actually think it can include a wider range of hands than this.



Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

9,141,558,426 games 17.031 secs 536,759,933 games/sec

Board:
Dead:

equity
Hand 0: 25.274% { AdQc }
Hand 1: 32.132% { 22+, ATs+, KQs, AJo+, KQo }
Hand 2: 42.593% { 77+, AQs+, AQo+ }

Originally Posted by jharding666

Hand 2: 42.593% { 77+, AQs+, AQo+ }

i think we could be slightly reaching with 77+ range facing a 3bet. thats unless you want to completely assume that he is a fish.

without being entirely results oriented here, the 4.180s have become considerably harder to beat, even from 6 months ago.

ill give you the hand one's range simply for the fact we COULD be facing an isolation shove, but even than hand 2 will not be coming over the top with anything short of premium holdings AK and AQ. Ive played quite a few 4/180s myself and although there are plenty of morons, it isnt as soft as soft as they used to be.

the ONLY reason i would say calling isnt a horrid line here, is because we are facing a 10bb stack if we fold it. but i think this hand can go either way and im more partial to folding.





young im curious, what was SB's hand?

Originally Posted by trippedupA-Town

i think we could be slightly reaching with 77+ range facing a 3bet. thats unless you want to completely assume that he is a fish.

without being entirely results oriented here, the 4.180s have become considerably harder to beat, even from 6 months ago.

ill give you the hand one's range simply for the fact we COULD be facing an isolation shove, but even than hand 2 will not be coming over the top with anything short of premium holdings AK and AQ. Ive played quite a few 4/180s myself and although there are plenty of morons, it isnt as soft as soft as they used to be.

the ONLY reason i would say calling isnt a horrid line here, is because we are facing a 10bb stack if we fold it. but i think this hand can go either way and im more partial to folding.

I took it to 88+ because I was including AQ, I had to make it 77+ to make our equity > 25% though

I was unaware that these games had become tougher, I still don't think calling is that bad though.

I'd much prefer open folding to raise/folding, especially UTG