PokerStars Game #12839491252: Tournament #64650392, $20+$2 Hold'em No Limit - Level X (400/800) - 2007/10/25 - 14:34:06 (ET)
Table '64650392 93' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: InOuterSpace (25101 in chips)
Seat 2: Truchelio (6394 in chips)
Seat 3: l_The_Nuts_l (47931 in chips)
Seat 4: Kleinbaas (5633 in chips)
Seat 5: shawba (73007 in chips)
Seat 6: zalt2069 (39670 in chips)
Seat 7: TheNightbird (19389 in chips)
Seat 8: bialy331 (18986 in chips)
Seat 9: Bagonirix (15363 in chips)
InOuterSpace: posts the ante 75
Truchelio: posts the ante 75
l_The_Nuts_l: posts the ante 75
Kleinbaas: posts the ante 75
shawba: posts the ante 75
zalt2069: posts the ante 75
TheNightbird: posts the ante 75
bialy331: posts the ante 75
Bagonirix: posts the ante 75
bialy331: posts small blind 400
Bagonirix: posts big blind 800
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Bagonirix [![]()
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InOuterSpace: folds
Truchelio: folds
l_The_Nuts_l: folds
Kleinbaas: folds
shawba: raises 1600 to 2400
zalt2069: calls 2400
TheNightbird: folds
bialy331: raises 16511 to 18911 and is all-in
Bagonirix: calls 14488 and is all-in
shawba: folds
zalt2069: folds
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10-25-2007 #1Mike McDermott
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What do we think of this?
idkmybffjill?
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10-25-2007 #2
With an M of around 8, AQo is the absolute minimum I call the shove with. I can't say it's a bad play, as SB might be trying a squeeze, but I might be folding in this spot.
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10-25-2007 #3
I would've folded that because I figure about a 10% chance that I would be ahead preflop. I figure him on a mid-high pair or AK (most people LOVE shoving with AK because they think it's the almighty if you get 1v1 all in
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It says you're on table 93, right? Meaning there's still a helluva long way to go til the money, and this is just not a sure enough situation to be risking your tournament life on, this early in the tourney. Doing well in MTT's comes from a mixture of solid card and opponent play as well as risk minimization, meaning if you're going to be all-in preflop, you better be DAMN sure you are going to win.
Most of it of course, as always, depends on your read of the opponent. If he has been super tight, give him credit for the raise and live to fight another day, with a better hand. If he tends to be an opportunist and doesn't always have the cards to back it up, then a call might be profitable, but still iffy (these types of players sometimes like to use their loose image as a weapon when wielding a monster hand, making huge overbets to lure others into not believing them). If he is more of a sneaky, check-raise type of player, then he might be using some reverse psychology - in that he is making such a ridiculous overbet and forcing the pressure of calling all your chips in, that it appears as such an obvious bluff move that you will be tempted to call, whereas he really has a monster. He would rather take you down all at once than give you a chance to see a flop.
It can be confusing I know, but that's what practice and experience with different play styles is for, so most of it becomes a "gut feeling", when it's actually a subconscious database of countless experiences.
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10-26-2007 #4
Fold PF. Hand after next you're on the button so there's a load of better hands than AQo for you to shove wiht coming later.
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10-26-2007 #5
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10-26-2007 #6
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10-26-2007 #7
Just because he's on table 93 doesn't mean he's nowhere near the end of the tourney. Stars closes tables as needed. Table 1 could be the 1st table closed, or it could be the final table.
Guys, I don't know that he's going to find a better spot to get his money in. There's some dead money in the pot, the potential to quadruple up, and if the original raiser and caller fold, he's heads-up against a possible squeeze-play who doesn't have to have that much of a hand.
As I mentioned before, AQo is the minimum hand I'm calling with. I may even fold. It all just depends on any reads I may have.I study at KRE8R's School of Bankroll Management.
If you IM me looking for money or a trade, you will be blocked.
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10-26-2007 #8
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10-26-2007 #9
this would be my biggest concern. The shove is huge, but you have two callers behind that have already shown strength. AQ isn't a hand I want all my money in with when there could be four opponents.
I mean, yeah, they did fold, but am I wrong to not assume they would in this situation?
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10-26-2007 #10
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