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Blind was $15/30.
I had about $250 and so was the other two opponent. I was SB.
Dealt: Jc 2d
One limper, I called and BB completed.
(Pot = $90) Flopped: Jh 2c 3c
I bet $30. BB fold, opponent called after 5 seconds.
(Pot = $150) Turn: 6h (or similar rag card, no flush draw)
I bet $50. Opponent called pretty fast.
(Pot = $250) River: 8s (or similar rag card, no flush possibility)
I go all in ($105).
Is there something that I could have done better? I put the opponent on some kind of straight draw, or J + middle kicker. He limped in so I rule out the possibility that he already completed the straight (thus going all in on my part).
btw. Opponent flipped over 33. DOH!
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Thread: Flopped 2 pair vs. caller
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09-18-2007 #1River Rat
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Flopped 2 pair vs. caller
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09-18-2007 #2Siddhartha
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no reason to complete with J2o... fold pf
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09-18-2007 #3River Rat
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Hm wait, I was SB so it only costs me $15 to see the flop with $75 already in the pot. Isn't this a good deal? (plus if my opponents are weak I bluff them off)
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09-18-2007 #4Stu Ungar
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J2o is a trash hand. What are you hoping to hit? 2 pair? Trips? Those hands are so rare that it isn't worth the call. If you hit a pair, you either have a medium pair with no kicker, or bottom pair and those are the most likely flops that'll hit.
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09-18-2007 #5River Rat
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Er... I did flop a 2 pair in this case.
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09-18-2007 #6NL20 Grinder...
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Yeah but what are you hoping for with this hand? Doesnt make straight, if you get high card you have a crappy kicker. You probably wont make a flush and if you do you still dont have the nut flush. Flopping two pair is your only option for this hand and the odds of flopping two pair is like 50 to 1 so its really not worth playing. Originally Posted by maltz
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09-19-2007 #7Stu Ungar
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This is what we call being results oriented. It is a BAD thing. Even though you had a good result, it was still a bad call and will lose money in the long run. Originally Posted by maltz
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09-19-2007 #8Staff News Poster
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What he said. The other 20 times you play trash like J2o you'll get nothing 18 times and go broke vs AJ on a J43 flop the other two.
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09-19-2007 #9Stu Ungar
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And yet another reason. Say you complete J2o and get that flop of J23. Turn comes another 3. You are now losing to any Jx because you have 2 pairs, Jacks and Threes with a deuce kicker. Even J4 is beating you at that point.
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10-02-2007 #10Poker Hustler
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you could of saved money preflop
but the other place you can save money is on the turn / river
you check / call the turn if it's not too high (his bet). I figure the opponent checks the turn wanting to trap or small bets the turn, you call.
River you check, he bets outs a little because he wants a call.
That'S the only way you can MAYBE.... MAYBE save some cash and your soul.
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