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  1. #1
    Stu Ungar sk8freak_21's Avatar
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    Default do you fold here?

    no great reads, but neither have been involved in alot of pots


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    No Limit Holdem Tournament
    Blinds: t25/t50
    9 players
    Converter

    Stack sizes:
    UTG: t2945
    UTG+1: t810
    MP1: t2230
    MP2: t1785
    Hero: t1660
    CO: t3220
    Button: t1655
    SB: t2305
    BB: t4130

    Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is MP3 with
    UTG raises to t500, UTG+1 folds, MP1 calls t500 (pot was t575), MP2 folds, Hero raises all-in t1660, 4 folds, UTG raises all-in t2945, MP1 calls all-in t1730.
    Uncalled bets: t715 returned to UTG.

    Flop: (t-2005, 0 player + 3 all-in - Main pot: t5055)


    Turn: (t-2005, 0 player + 3 all-in - Main pot: t5055)


    River: (t-2005, 0 player + 3 all-in - Main pot: t5055)


    Results:
    Final pot: t-2005

    my thought process you might ask?
    "ZOMG AK ALLIN!!!!!!!!!!!!"
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    i dunno, i guess im just a fuckin donkey.plain.and.simple
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    Great squeeze play. Unfortunately they never work.

    I prolly would have folded PF. UTG donkey is raising to 10xBB and any raise we make essentially puts us all-in. The question I ask myself is, "Am I willing to go broke now with AK?" MP1's call is the reason I'm folding. Granted, we might be in good shape, but it's too early to be flipping a coin for our tournament life.
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    Depends on your style I suppose. If you're great with a big stack I shove every time.
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    Yeah I pry it out of my hand lol

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    Pretty easy fold. There's a 10x raise PF from UTG and then a smooth call from EP. We can't think at all that we're ahead here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SeanyBullets1 View Post
    Pretty easy fold. There's a 10x raise PF from UTG and then a smooth call from EP. We can't think at all that we're ahead here.
    yea this was my analysis after i busted out. a huge leak in my MTT game is not taking my time to analyze each hand in each situation. i have the patience to fold 50 hands in a row if needed to, but then 1 hand BAM all my chips in the middle and im wondering how im broke
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    btw UTG had AK and MP1 had AA
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    my instant thoughts when someone raise 10xbb is that im folding and i hope he wins a big pot so the donk can double me up in the near future....when someone else only calls the raise, im also putting him in the donky category.

    by putting my above well thought out reads into action, ur gonna get at least one caller here by pushing and should very well expect both guys to call you.

    this early, i wouldnt like to put my life on the line against both with AK when we're prob gonna have to come from behind to survive and when we can easily stack them later with a made monster.

    on the other hand, if ur also a complete donk, u may as well push and hope for the best
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    If two people are willing to see river with you, even with AA your chance reduce to about 70% or less. I have too many memory of getting AA & KK cracked this way. Fold QQ and below to survive.

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