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    Default Overplay my Tens?

    Deepstack tourney on stars. 99 paid. 1199 started. 104 ppl left. Money very top heavy.

    Blinds 600/1200

    Me in BB. Aggressive player with 70k raises in mp to 3600. I have 10h10c. I hvae 20k. i call for 2400. Flop 9h 6h 3h. I have 17k left and decide to move in. He calls with Kh Kc and i lose. Did i play them bad? I had gotten garbage for close to 2.5 hours and 1010 looked good.

    The bubble stinks.

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    Shove preflop.

    No matter how you play it, you're just unlucky he had KK here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by the alex View Post
    Shove preflop.

    No matter how you play it, you're just unlucky he had KK here.
    Usually sound advice, but with out even a partial read, I would hesitate to say "Shove". If he's more on the tighter side, then I may hesitate here to push PF. But then, you are just asking to shove later. This may sound obscene,but maybe we consider folding here? Let's say we put him on JJ+ and AJ+ (good raising range). Over most of the hands we're 50/50, the rest we're a 4-1 dog. We may want to consider folding here, IF he's a tight player.

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    On the bubble, I'm shoving preflop.
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    His M is ~7.

    Shove preflop.
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    So what if his M is 7?

    I agree totally that if we are first in the pot here, this is an automatic push.

    But you need to stop and think about this opener. We need to know some thing about him before we can decide on this play. As I mentioned before, if he's been pretty tight so far, then we may want to consider folding, since we're a dog, or at best a coinflip, to most of what he could be holding. But as he's described as an aggressive player, you still need to consider what he's holding before blindly shoving your chips in.

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    Shove shove shove

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghost View Post
    So what if his M is 7?

    blah blah blah
    Stopped reading there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by piv View Post
    Stopped reading there.
    LOL, nobody ever likes alex being questioned do they!?!

    On the bubble I wouldn't mind a fold PF because our stack isn't big enough to scare him in to folding enough of his range
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghost View Post
    So what if his M is 7?

    I agree totally that if we are first in the pot here, this is an automatic push.

    But you need to stop and think about this opener. We need to know some thing about him before we can decide on this play. As I mentioned before, if he's been pretty tight so far, then we may want to consider folding, since we're a dog, or at best a coinflip, to most of what he could be holding. But as he's described as an aggressive player, you still need to consider what he's holding before blindly shoving your chips in.
    Actually the raise in front of us makes the hand easier to play with an M in the 7-10 range because we're not overshoving.

    Open-shoving TT with this M is just terrible.
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