Don't have a good read on anyone at this point -- was this a good laydown? Should I be more aggressive preflop? Can't I limp if possible to try to catch a set?

I mean, it really sucked when he showed...

Also, the hand converter wouldn't work, for some reason, but I did try spacing it all out a bit. If a mod could convert for me, I'd be much obiged


Full Tilt Poker Game #3283363216: $24,000 Guarantee (24572650), Table 62 - 20/40 - No Limit Hold'em - 20:12:03 ET - 2007/08/17

Seat 1: King_lewis8 (2,670)
Seat 2: feelingfine77 (3,355)
Seat 3: azlily77 (1,415)
Seat 4: unklepaddy (6,195)
Seat 5: Buddha1986 (4,335)
Seat 6: Gezabelle (2,610)
Seat 7: MACTEN0001 (3,015)
Seat 8: ALEX0090 (3,345), is sitting out
Seat 9: Barbourman (3,030)

King_lewis8 posts the small blind of 20
feelingfine77 posts the big blind of 40
The button is in seat #9

*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Barbourman [7h 7s]
azlily77 folds
unklepaddy folds
Buddha1986 folds
Gezabelle folds
MACTEN0001 folds
ALEX0090 folds
Barbourman calls 40
King_lewis8 has 15 seconds left to act
King_lewis8 calls 20
feelingfine77 checks

*** FLOP *** [Kd 7c Jc]
King_lewis8 has 15 seconds left to act
King_lewis8 checks
feelingfine77 bets 80
Barbourman has 15 seconds left to act
Barbourman raises to 160
King_lewis8 folds
feelingfine77 calls 80

*** TURN *** [Kd 7c Jc] [Qd]
feelingfine77 checks
Barbourman bets 400
feelingfine77 calls 400
*** RIVER *** [Kd 7c Jc Qd] [Ts] <<<I assumed he had an ace/rag...

feelingfine77 has 15 seconds left to act
feelingfine77 bets 720
Barbourman has 15 seconds left to act
Barbourman has requested TIME
Barbourman folds
Uncalled bet of 720 returned to feelingfine77

feelingfine77 shows [8c Tc] a pair of Tens
feelingfine77 wins the pot (1,240)

*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1,240 | Rake 0
Board: [Kd 7c Jc Qd Ts]

Seat 1: King_lewis8 (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 2: feelingfine77 (big blind) collected (1,240)
Seat 3: azlily77 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: unklepaddy didn't bet (folded)
Seat 5: Buddha1986 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 6: Gezabelle didn't bet (folded)
Seat 7: MACTEN0001 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 8: ALEX0090 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 9: Barbourman (button) folded on the River


Oh, and I ended up being knocked out of the tourney by the same dude... he called a 6xBB preflop with a 24o (against my AKs). Flop came A53 rainbow. Can you friggin' believe that?

If that's not a lesson in not minraising on the flop then what is?

I'm bummed out man...been running like this for the last couple days. I know my game can use some improvements.... but I really don't know about playing so freakin aggressive to get the trash out preflop...

Originally Posted by davidab157

If that's not a lesson in not minraising on the flop then what is?

Yes, thanks. I def need to work on that.

If you're gonna raise, just raise pot. Even if you raise pot every single time, it's better than minraising.

Originally Posted by davidab157

If you're gonna raise, just raise pot. Even if you raise pot every single time, it's better than minraising.

Dumb question, but what is "pot" preflop?

Depends on the blinds.

If it's, say, 100/200 blinds and you are first to speak, raising "pot" would be:

200 (amount to "call") + 500 (what the pot would be if you just called) = raise up to 700

Easier way is to just go 4bb +1 per limper and if you are reraising, go to 3.5x the original raise.

Originally Posted by davidab157

Depends on the blinds.

If it's, say, 100/200 blinds and you are first to speak, raising "pot" would be:

300 (in pot to start with) + 200 (amount to "call") + 500 (what the pot would be if you just called) = raise up to 1000

Easier way is to just go 4bb +1 per limper and if you are reraising, go to 3.5x the original raise.

Will try that out, thanks.

Originally Posted by davidab157

Depends on the blinds.

If it's, say, 100/200 blinds and you are first to speak, raising "pot" would be:

300 (in pot to start with) + 200 (amount to "call") + 500 (what the pot would be if you just called) = raise up to 1000

This is a good explanation until we get that 200 + 500 =1000. Donk.
Opening raise of pot is always 3.5bb in a game with no antes, unless you are opening from the SB in which case pot is to 3bb.