Is it too early for this?

**youngplayer9** · 08-13-2007

Should I be waiting to coinflip later on?

I heard someone say if you play a tournament for the bubble you will not make it as much as if you played to win...this is a play to win moment...am I wrong in doing this?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t100 (9 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

saw flop|saw showdown

Hero (t2655)
Button (t3810)
SB (t4485)
BB (t2360)
UTG (t2430)
UTG+1 (t2305)
MP1 (t1475)
MP2 (t4085)
MP3 (t3400)

Preflop: Hero is CO with

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1 fold, UTG+1 calls t100, 3 folds, Hero raises to t400, 2 folds, BB raises to t2360, UTG+1 folds, Hero calls t1960.

Flop: (t4870)

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(2 players)

Turn: (t4870)

(2 players)

River: (t4870)

(2 players)

Final Pot: t4870

Results in white below:
BB has 6d 6c (one pair, sixes).
Hero has Kd Ah (high card, ace).
Outcome: BB wins t4870.

No reads sorry, just moved to this table.

**youngplayer9** · 08-13-2007

very next MTT i was in

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (9 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

CO (t2990)
Button (t2085)
SB (t1330)
BB (t1350)
UTG (t1650)
UTG+1 (t1640)
MP1 (t1390)
Hero (t1385)
MP3 (t4250)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with

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1 fold, UTG+1 calls t30, MP1 raises to t150, Hero raises to t420, 5 folds, UTG+1 folds, MP1 raises to t1390, Hero calls t965 (All-In).

Flop: (t2850)

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(2 players, 1 all-in)

Turn: (t2850)

(2 players, 1 all-in)

River: (t2850)

(2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: t2850

Results in white below:
MP1 has Qc Qd (one pair, queens).
Hero has Ks Ad (high card, ace).
Outcome: MP1 wins t2850.

**triple-t** · 08-14-2007

1st hand sucks, but you had to do it.

2nd hand, I'm probably folding to his reraise unless I'd already seen him 3bet light. Then again, I really don't want to go broke this early in the tourney. I can't fault the hand as played, though.

**jharding666** · 08-14-2007

If you're a skilled player then you need to try and avoid PF all ins as much as possible in MTTs (Hellmuth does this brilliantly). If you don't feel like you have a decent post flop edge over the opposition then flipping is fine early on.

That said, we have decent pot odds in the first hand

Second hand I don't mind just shoving over the top of the initial raise as we're not folding to a shove anyway after 3 betting (has been a while since I've played MTTs though)

**squeezyplayer** · 08-14-2007

hand 1 is a snapcall

hand 2, i don't think a reraise is necessary. just see a flop. as played....meh, i think you've already committed enough of your stack that you gotta call. don't be thrilled about it though

**boomer182_** · 08-14-2007

personally hand one is a fold for me. i never win them coinflips and he's near equally stacked to urself. id fold and bide my time to raise and bet with position. at this stage he's not desperate enough to push all in for anything less than a pair!
hand is just a flat call after his raise if you hit the flop with ak u are looking sweet. be prepared to fold tho if you miss!

**squeezyplayer** · 08-14-2007

in hand 1, even if we give BB a range of 22+, there's enough money already in the pot to make a call immediately profitable

**luked** · 08-14-2007

I always think that early in tourneys you should try and get as many chips as possible. Hands like AK etc are still drawing hands but at the start of a tourney (when the donks are still in) you want to be the one getting their chips. Bad players will call an all in with A10, AJ etc so you will be well ahead. Of course sometimes you will get sucked out on but in the long run it is a profitable move

**feint06** · 08-14-2007

1st hand, well played -- insta-call.

2nd hand, I prefer to see a flop and just call MP1's $150. Blinds are low etc

**obga** · 08-14-2007

you're being result oriented

an ace or a king will hit 66% of the time

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