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  1. #1
    Stu Ungar triple-t's Avatar
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    Default Anyone play this different?

    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t400 (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

    saw flop|saw showdown

    Hero (t15010)
    SB (t6710)
    BB (t26845)
    UTG (t11540)
    UTG+1 (t12395)
    MP1 (t3640)
    MP2 (t2513)
    MP3 (t8130)
    CO (t5955)

    Preflop: Hero is Button with Q, A.
    1 fold, UTG+1 calls t400, 4 folds, Hero raises to t1200, 2 folds, UTG+1 calls t800.

    Flop: (t2600) 8, A, 3 (2 players)
    UTG+1 checks, Hero bets t1600, UTG+1 calls t1600.

    Turn: (t5800) 3 (2 players)
    UTG+1 checks, Hero bets t3000, UTG+1 calls t3000.

    River: (t11800) 5 (2 players)
    UTG+1 checks, Hero checks.

    Final Pot: t11800

    Results in white below:
    UTG+1 has Ah Kh (two pair, aces and threes).
    Hero has Qd As (two pair, aces and threes).
    Outcome: UTG+1 wins t11800.
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    I think there's value in a river shove.

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    Stu Ungar triple-t's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by squeezyplayer View Post
    I think there's value in a river shove.
    Normally, I agree with the river shove having value, and it crossed my mind, but I ultimately decided that checking was the best option here. The flush draw missed and that was the hand I had put villain on. I really think the only hands calling a shove that I beat are hands that would have raised PF (KK, QQ) and AJ, AT (which also probably would have raised PF). I honestly expected villain to flip over A8.

    As played, I probably raised too little PF (1600-2000 might have been right), but 1200 did the job I wanted.

    Flop bet was sized to deny FD odds, keep the pot small, and obv for value.

    Turn bet was the same. River check explained above. Of course when I saw villain's hand, I thought wtf?

    Anyway, I lost control of the table after this hand. I was PFR about twice an orbit and either took the pot right there, or showed down a good hand. After this hand, my raises were getting called or repopped, so I switched gears back to my normal tight game. Got a couple of hands only to watch the flop destroy them (AKX flop when I have TT). Then I finally got short-stacked. I pushed (with AQ again) got called by KK and I was gone in 249th place.
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    no way, the check was good. he's called you this far just show them down. he calls your raise preflop and with a flop like that he could only beat you with an ace, theres no way he's got anything better unless he plays random hands like me. lol i'd be worried he's checking me the nuts. afterall top pair aint all that!

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    Quote Originally Posted by triple-t View Post
    As played, I probably raised too little PF (1600-2000 might have been right)
    That's the only thing I didn't like. I like your cautious post-flop play because I avoid getting involved with other bigstacks at this point in the tournament
    Quote Originally Posted by KRE8R View Post
    QJ offsuite is better though cause you can make 2 kinds of flushes.

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