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  1. #1
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    Default Post some guesses to the outcome !!

    This is one of those situations we see every day in Poker.
    WWYD and what do you think my opponent had?
    The Easy answer is " scary board" " lay those J's down ", but why?
    What do the %'s show?

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    PokerStars Game #1003524xxxx: Tournament #50871221, $6.00+$0.60 Hold'em No Limit
    - Level II (15/30) - 2007/05/21 - 16:47:22 (ET)
    Table '50871221 1' 6-max Seat #4 is the button
    Seat 1: sherlock2200 (2010 in chips)
    Seat 2: kingovspades (1290 in chips)
    Seat 3: pajopajo (2540 in chips)
    Seat 4: CRUDEFINDER (1860 in chips)
    Seat 6: corso86 (1300 in chips)
    corso86: posts small blind 15
    sherlock2200: posts big blind 30
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to CRUDEFINDER [Jd JavaScript]
    kingovspades: calls 30
    pajopajo: folds
    CRUDEFINDER: raises 120 to 150
    corso86: folds
    sherlock2200: calls 120
    kingovspades: calls 120
    *** FLOP *** [5h 7h 6s]
    sherlock2200: bets 30
    kingovspades: raises 30 to 60
    CRUDEFINDER: raises 120 to 180
    sherlock2200: folds
    kingovspades: raises 360 to 540(What is going on here? I am suspicious)
    CRUDEFINDER: calls 360
    *** TURN *** [5h 7h 6s] [3d]
    kingovspades: bets 600 and is all-in(now I'm scared, does he have it or just pot committed?)
    CRUDEFINDER: calls 600(I am thinking I am probably beat, but he may have Ah-6h)
    *** RIVER *** [5h 7h 6s 3d] [2s]
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    kingovspades: shows [xx xx] (xxxxxxxx)
    CRUDEFINDER: shows [Jd JavaScript] (a pair of Jacks)
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 2775 | Rake 0
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    EDIT: I misread HH

    I'd fold after he 4bets your min 3bet.
    Last edited by WotaWaster; 06-20-2007 at 10:41 AM.

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    Wota, i think you got the flop play confused with the preflop play.

    Your preflop play is good. Flop play, your re-raise i'd like to see slightly larger. After his re-raise its push or fold. As played, you called and you have to call the turn b/c you're committed.

    I guess he had 56
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    My guess and analysis :

    He called preflop, 30, then called 120 bet to your raise.
    So maybe a weak hand, something like a low-midpocket pair. He wanted to see the flop, but not at any cost. 120 was not too much for him, especially 6.60 sng that I played a lot.. His state of mind : if the flop dosen'T help, I fold

    flop 5-6-7 giving him open ended draw, + having a pocket pair already. Tried to push you off probably...

    Hit str8 if pocket 4's on the turn

    Smells like pocket 4's or 8's


    Maybe played Aces, hoping a raise since he was UTG ?

    Just don't tell me he had 7-3!!!!
    Last edited by mister.x; 06-20-2007 at 10:47 AM.

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    I like the preflop play and the raise on the flop, but I'd make it bigger, up to 240 maybe. As played when he raises I fold.

    As for guessing the hand, the range could include 56/67/77/78/66/55/88/44/89/34 and a few more, I'll go for 78.
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    Quote Originally Posted by davidab157 View Post
    I like the preflop play and the raise on the flop, but I'd make it bigger, up to 240 maybe. As played when he raises I fold.
    I agree 100%


    As for my guesses

    Most likely: 1010, 99, 88, 44, 98, 87, 76, 75, 54, 43, 77, 66, 55, or pure bluff

    Conceivable: AA, KK, QQ, JJ, 74, 64,



    I think he probably has a straight, set, or two pair.

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    C'mon Peeps,
    what do you think his hole cards were?
    I'll answer tommorrow.....

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    Your flop 3bet is waaay too small to be effective. This is a very drawy board, you should not be letting anyone see a cheap turn card. Make it 500, call a push.

    As played, you need to be making your decision when it is 4bet back to you.
    A flatcall obviously commits yourself to the pot, but it also allows a turn card to come off, many of which are pretty ugly for your hand. Your decision should definitely be push/fold at that point. Against an unknown donkey, I would probably lay it down, but with the appropriate reads I could be all in here.

    As for your question, your tone seems to indicate that you won the hand, so I'll guess 88.

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    Default Answer Hand-- Think it over....

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUDEFINDER View Post
    This is one of those situations we see every day in Poker.


    *********** # 1 **************
    PokerStars Game #1003524xxxx: Tournament #50871221, $6.00+$0.60 Hold'em No Limit
    - Level II (15/30) - 2007/05/21 - 16:47:22 (ET)
    Table '50871221 1' 6-max Seat #4 is the button
    Seat 1: sherlock2200 (2010 in chips)
    Seat 2: kingovspades (1290 in chips)
    Seat 3: pajopajo (2540 in chips)
    Seat 4: CRUDEFINDER (1860 in chips)
    Seat 6: corso86 (1300 in chips)
    corso86: posts small blind 15
    sherlock2200: posts big blind 30
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to CRUDEFINDER [Jd JavaScript]
    kingovspades: calls 30
    pajopajo: folds
    CRUDEFINDER: raises 120 to 150
    corso86: folds
    sherlock2200: calls 120
    kingovspades: calls 120
    *** FLOP *** [5h 7h 6s]
    sherlock2200: bets 30
    kingovspades: raises 30 to 60
    CRUDEFINDER: raises 120 to 180
    sherlock2200: folds
    kingovspades: raises 360 to 540(What is going on here? I am suspicious)
    CRUDEFINDER: calls 360
    *** TURN *** [5h 7h 6s] [3d]
    kingovspades: bets 600 and is all-in(now I'm scared, does he have it or just pot committed?)
    CRUDEFINDER: calls 600(I am thinking I am probably beat, but he may have Ah-6h)
    *** RIVER *** [5h 7h 6s 3d] [2s]
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    kingovspades: shows [4h 6h] (STR8)
    CRUDEFINDER: shows [Jd JavaScript] (a pair of Jacks)
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 2775 | Rake 0
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    This guy raised $360 w/ a pair of 6's, If you run the numbers he played it great, assuming now we know what we both had for hole cards. Would you have played it this way? I'll put up some %'s later.

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