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    Super Moderator WotaWaster's Avatar
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    Default PFO HU vs VicGrozny

    Thought this was an interesting spot. From memory but I'm 99% sure it's accurate.

    2nd hand of PFO HU Tourney on Stars.
    Blinds at 10/20

    1st hand: I raise to 60 preflop from button. Vic calls and check-folds flop.

    2nd Hand:

    Stack sizes

    Vic 1440
    Me 1560

    Vic opens the SB to 60
    I reraise to 190 with 9x
    Vic calls

    Flop is (Pot 380)
    I lead for 280
    Vic minraises to 560
    I............

    No disrespect to Vic, he is a huge favourite over me in stud for example but I believe I have a big edge over him in NLHE and I feel this is crucial. Against Patrik Antonius my chips are straight into this pot and if he calls with a coin flipping hand I'd be delighted. However do I want to flip a coin in blind level 1 against a player I perceive I am a favourite against?

    If I call I will still have a stack of 810 chips and blinds at 10/20 if I then have to fold further on in the hand. This would keep me very much in the game so if I call and check turn, I can fold any non club, ace or 9 and still keep these 810 chips. I think there is a possibility get a free river since Vic may not be too happy with a lot of his hands once he's been called on the flop and may also slowplay a flush giving me a free river. Is this a better option than just shoving it all in here when I give myself very little fold equity and am probably putting Vic on an overpair to the board?

    If you are pushing here would your decision change to a flat call if you had the button?
    Am i thinking too much and it's just an instapush?

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    You have top pair with the nut flush draw facing a pot that it is now over half your stack size. End it now. Push it in.

    Though he's probably got a set.
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    i bet hes gambling with some bs, i'd push.
    f*cking it up for everyone else since 1969.

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    You have the chip lead. Push push push.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lairyboy View Post
    You have the chip lead. Push push push.
    LOL, by 120 chips!

    I push here too.

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    Shove. He only minraises after the flop and only min 3-bets preflop.
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    I'm surprised at the consensus here.

    You guys don't think he can easily have an overpair or set here and I'm flipping a coin with a 75bb stack in hand 2? In a cash game its a very easy push but I mean if I lose this hand (as I did) I am all but out of the PFO HU NLHE tournament. These are high stakes!

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    i'm actually surprised that you took time to think about the push. thats probably why i called you down. i put you on the high club and maybe middle pair. if you insta push, i probably fold. you took time to think and i put you on a tough push with a strong draw and figured i was ahead. i know people will think that its crap but thats how i determined my call.

    f*cking it up for everyone else since 1969.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VGrozny View Post
    i'm actually surprised that you took time to think about the push. thats probably why i called you down. i put you on the high club and maybe middle pair. if you insta push, i probably fold. you took time to think and i put you on a tough push with a strong draw and figured i was ahead. i know people will think that its crap but thats how i determined my call.

    LOL at having no idea about call ranges.
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    So Vic sucked out??
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