Im lost at how to play this...

**Auto** · 05-31-2007

Don't usually play limit (forced to because of the Spring Series) and this flop confused the hell out of me. What do I do?

BB = lairyboy

PokerStars Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind t100 (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

Hero (t1806)
Button (t3820)
SB (t890)
BB (t2262)
UTG (t1722)

Preflop: Hero is MP with Q

, Q

.
1 fold, Hero raises, 2 folds, BB 3-bets, Hero caps, BB calls.

Flop: (8.50 SB, t850) 9

, K

, A

(2 players)
BB bets, Hero raises, BB 3-bets, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 6.75 BB (t1350)

Results in white below:
No showdown. BB wins 6.75 BB (t1350).

**LordRahl86** · 05-31-2007

Fold. There are two things I've learned from limit: Aces are what people raise with (if they don't suck), mostly just aces + a good kicker, or a pair of aces or kings in the hole. Secondly: Never try to bluff someone out. Since there are two overcards on the flop, one that would warrent a raise, the other POSSIBLY warrenting a raise pre-flop, you want to get out of there as soon as he bets. Pre-flop, I don't quite know. I play in the low limits, where capping is not uncommon at ALL. Especially with awesome hands like 72s.

ANYWAY, the point is that pre-flop, I am quite sure he had at least one ace, maybe KQs if you're lucky. Maybe KK if you're very unlucky. After the flop, he has at least a pair, maybe 2 or trips. Don't raise with this, just get out. The only possible motive I can see you having for raising would be to bluff. Do this in limit VERY rarely, especially at micro and low stakes, if you happen to be on them.

Edit: Oh, and if there are 4 big bets in the pot, and your opponent has just bet (even if you're SURE it's a bluff), then a raise on the flop (still in SMALL bets, remember) will work less than 1% of the time.

**yegch** · 05-31-2007

Never try to bluff someone out? What's your reasoning behind that?

**LordRahl86** · 05-31-2007

Maybe not never, but in limit games it becomes a LOT more difficult to bluff a person out, especially in a pot that's got 4 big bets already.

**Bagonirix** · 05-31-2007

Originally Posted by LordRahl86

Maybe not never, but in limit games it becomes a LOT more difficult to bluff a person out, especially bets lairyboy

**lairyboy** · 05-31-2007

Well most of you obviously weren't there and don't know how shit I play. I am going to get the HH e-mailed to me and I will post it.

EDIT: I am also going to post the hand where I had 22 and Bag called me down with ace high.

**Bagonirix** · 05-31-2007

http://www.pokerxfactor.com/HH64072/...0070531_235200

**lairyboy** · 05-31-2007

I can't see that HH, so first here are the deuces:

PokerStars Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind t50 (7 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

SB (t675)
BB (t1213)
UTG (t2120)
MP1 (t1585)
MP2 (t1895)
Hero (t1315)
Button (t1697)

Preflop: Hero is CO with

,

.
3 folds, Hero raises, Button calls, 2 folds.

Flop: (5.50 SB, t275)

,

(2 players)
Hero bets, Button calls.

Turn: (3.75 BB, t375)

(2 players)
Hero bets, Button calls.

River: (5.75 BB, t575)

(2 players)
Hero checks, Button checks.

Final Pot: 5.75 BB (t575)

Results in white below:
Hero has 2d 2h (one pair, twos).
Button has Ac Tc (high card, ace).
Outcome: Hero wins 5.75 BB (t575).

Now here is the hand Auto is talking about:

PokerStars Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind t100 (5 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

MP (t1806)
Button (t3820)
SB (t890)
Hero (t2262)
UTG (t1722)

Preflop: Hero is BB with

,

.
1 fold, MP raises, 2 folds, Hero 3-bets, MP caps, Hero calls.

Flop: (8.50 SB, t850)

,

(2 players)
Hero bets, MP raises, Hero 3-bets, MP folds.

Final Pot: 6.75 BB (t1350)

Results in white below:
No showdown. Hero wins 6.75 BB (t1350).

I never give up

**Auto** · 06-01-2007

108o after its been capped pf!

I hate you so much right now....

**Double3** · 06-01-2007

LMAO

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