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  1. #1
    River Rat Auto's Avatar
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    Default Do you call this river?

    No reads on villain.

    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (7 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

    BB (t1500)
    UTG (t1480)
    MP1 (t2410)
    MP2 (t1420)
    CO (t830)
    Hero (t2190)
    SB (t3670)

    Preflop: Hero is Button with Q, Q.
    1 fold, MP1 raises to t100, 1 fold, CO calls t100, Hero calls t100, 2 folds.

    Flop: (t345) 8, 4, 5 (3 players)
    MP1 bets t250, CO folds, Hero calls t250.

    Turn: (t845) 7 (2 players)
    MP1 bets t358, Hero calls t358.

    River: (t1561) 5 (2 players)
    MP1 bets t1702 (All-In), Hero calls t1482 (All-In).

    Final Pot: t4745

    Results in white below:
    MP1 has Th Ts (two pair, tens and fives).
    Hero has Qd Qs (two pair, queens and fives).
    Outcome: Hero wins t4525. MP1 wins t220.
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    Haven't looked at results but your play is pretty bad on all streets. Especially without reads.

    You need to raise EVERY spot.
    BOSS

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    Yeah no way I'm calling at anytime.

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    I think you really should be getting all-in on the flop here. Raise pre-flop and the pot will be larger for a raise all-in after his bet(hopefully).

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    Squeeze 'em out preflop.

    Raise to 800 and call a shove on the flop.

    Yes, call the river.
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    at what point do we pull the tampon in this hand and play it like a man?

    i have not looked at the results yet, but i can only hope to guess you lost

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    Usually I reraise this pf, but it was a donkament $1.75 turbo so I decided to switch my play up and just see a flop.

    When villan bets out on flop I put him AK-AJ, 1010-AA. I called flop thinking that he was looking to hit a A or K on turn.

    Turn comes a 7 and the board is now pretty scary, he thinks a very long time and bets out a smallish bet. At this point Im thinking "Well Ive played this pretty badly so far"... lol

    Finally I call the turn figuring he might bluff river with I alot of hands that Im ahead of. The turn comes a 5 (another low card) which pretty much changes nothing and he pushes all in.

    I figure the only hands Im behind are AA or KK giving the range I had him on the flop. Also I thought... "Its only $1.75, who cares". So I called and obv Pokerstars awarded me for my bad play.
    Last edited by Auto; 05-31-2007 at 09:43 AM.
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    Mike McDermott
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    At this level he's still firing with A8. I think a flush draw is unlikely because from my experience at the lower levels, people that semi bluff FD's on the flop don't have the juice to do it again on the turn if they miss.

    I always say that if you try and play a small pot PF with a big pair then you should be able to let it go without improvement or a really nice board. You haven't got either here. Having said that it's only the PF raiser still involved in the hand so the straight is unlikely. Despite all this, I'm not folding QQ on this board in a $1.75 tourney.

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