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  1. 05-08-2007 #1
    Pinguaq
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    Default TpQk - Did I outplay myself?

    I would have bet my left nut it wasn't AK, but I seen A7/A3 as scary possabilities. Also think he would have played A8 the same way (he had been in most pots this game). Did I make a mistake here? The check/raise flop was a given as he would have raised no matter what I'm sure.

    PokerStars Game #9817352175: Tournament #49447050, $5.00+$0.50 Hold'em No Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2007/05/08 - 21:16:03 (ET)
    Table '49447050 49' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
    Seat 1: xxmarcyxx (1317 in chips)
    Seat 2: Vegskj (2753 in chips)
    Seat 3: JimmyJames69 (1422 in chips)
    Seat 4: magpiebob (1167 in chips)
    Seat 5: basrut (2510 in chips)
    Seat 6: scuzzydrivel (3127 in chips)
    Seat 7: william_mcc (3009 in chips)
    Seat 8: IamJack2u (1290 in chips)
    Seat 9: Pinguaq (1488 in chips)
    IamJack2u: posts small blind 15
    Pinguaq: posts big blind 30
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to Pinguaq [Qc Ah]
    xxmarcyxx: folds
    Vegskj: folds
    JimmyJames69: folds
    magpiebob: calls 30
    basrut: folds
    scuzzydrivel: folds
    william_mcc: raises 120 to 150
    IamJack2u: folds
    Pinguaq: raises 180 to 330
    magpiebob: calls 300
    william_mcc: calls 180
    *** FLOP *** [As 4h 7c]
    Pinguaq: checks
    magpiebob: checks
    william_mcc: bets 390
    Pinguaq: raises 480 to 870
    magpiebob: folds
    william_mcc: raises 480 to 1350
    Pinguaq: calls 288 and is all-in
    *** TURN *** [As 4h 7c] [5d]
    *** RIVER *** [As 4h 7c 5d] [3s]
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    Pinguaq: shows [Qc Ah] (a pair of Aces)
    william_mcc: shows [7s Ad] (two pair, Aces and Sevens)
    william_mcc collected 3321 from pot
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 3321 | Rake 0
    Board [As 4h 7c 5d 3s]
    Seat 1: xxmarcyxx folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 2: Vegskj folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 3: JimmyJames69 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 4: magpiebob folded on the Flop
    Seat 5: basrut folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 6: scuzzydrivel folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 7: william_mcc (button) showed [7s Ad] and won (3321) with two pair, Aces and Sevens
    Seat 8: IamJack2u (small blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 9: Pinguaq (big blind) showed [Qc Ah] and lost with a pair of Aces
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  2. 05-08-2007 #2
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    Is that a minbet pf, what the fuck is that?(Dont mind me im just very very very pissed off right now)
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  3. 05-08-2007 #3
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    I don't like the small reraise preflop.
    Assuming its an MTT I think your options are either:
    - call and see a flop.
    - repop to 500 so you have some chance of taking pot down preflop at least

    As played you have 1/5th your stack in preflop and flop TP2K - there is no way of getting away from the hand ever. Check/raising may get value from a bluff if the guy is enough of a donk to call a 3bet and then bluff an A high flop when checked to.
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  4. 05-08-2007 #4
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    If this is a SNG, fold PF.
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  5. 05-08-2007 #5
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    Quote Originally Posted by SeanyBullets1 View Post
    If this is a SNG, fold PF.
    Damn seany... pretty useless comment outa you.

    Guess I coulda raised more pf... even if I had them on uber-donk
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    Damn seany... pretty useless comment outa you.
    Pretty decent comment imo. No need to play AQ to a raise in a SNG when you have 30BB stack.
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    I agree that the PF re raise (if you don't want to cold call) needs to be bigger. As it is you're just building a bigger pot with an unmade hand. You have no fold equity so you're definitely seeing a flop.

    On the flop, the way you played it, I 3 bet him all in. I'm not getting away from this in a re raised pot (unless I wasn't the re raiser in which case they could have AK).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pinguaq View Post
    Damn seany... pretty useless comment outa you.
    I agree with Seany actually. In a STT I'm mostly folding this, but I will mix in a few calls with position.

    In an MTT, I like reraising but it has to be more, at least to 450 or something. As played I go broke on that flop.

    EDIT: just realised you are OOP, yeah in STT I just fold.
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  9. 05-09-2007 #9
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    You'd be better pushing if you have a read on him being a donkey.

    Otherwise like Seany says, fold.
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  10. 05-09-2007 #10
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    Quote Originally Posted by WotaWaster View Post
    Pretty decent comment imo. No need to play AQ to a raise in a SNG when you have 30BB stack.
    I learned my bad plays from you in the PFO SnG . This was a 1000+ $5 MTT

    I coulda folded, but like I said, he was raising/calling every hand so far and I hate being pushed around too long. Gotta make a stand sometimes, so maybe a push was a better option, but part of me wanted him to call pf, especially when I saw the flop. Guess I got what I was asking for good and hard.

    General concenses seams to be the barely-more-than-min-raise was not a good idea... I'll do this less often.
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