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    Chaser pokerpker111's Avatar
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    Default Having regrets on a hand.

    Casino cash game blinds $1/$2 (min buyin 100- max buyin 200)
    10 person table
    im sitting in big blind with about $160 in chips.
    preflop
    chip leader in middle position starts limp parade, 2 other callers call and small blind folds i cheak with .(4person pot)
    flop:
    I cheak, chipleader puts in $15 raise. 2 other preflop limpers fold actions on me, I call.
    turn
    I cheak, chipleader raises $20, I take a moment and reraise him i put it up to $60 he takes a moment and folds.

    Now I won this hand cause I had a good read on him as he was a loose aggressive player.
    I was thinking of this hand for these past few days. I committied half my stack in this pot with absolute nothing if he was a good enough player he would say hey he must have had a 2 and hes tring to protect his hand now on the turn if I reraise him I could take him off his hand....

    The only thing I think that saved me was I was a real tight player this night and I played like a fish as I wasnt catching any cards. So cheaking preflop might say I have low cards and calling the flop because I had the 8 but that means I had a 2 as I was slowplaying. and i reraise on turn ment I hit it and he respected that as in his eyes I was a fish....(yeah its doesnt make too much sense)

    I don't know I kinda wish I didnt bring this hand that deep. I had a good read on him though, I can't decide if it was just pure fluke for this bluff or a good play.

    Your thoughts?
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    I like the play, he probably does not have an 8.

    Btw it's "check" not "cheak".

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    Quote Originally Posted by pokerpker111 View Post
    I was a real tight player
    Therefore he only calls you with an 8, nice play, way to take advantage of your image.

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    Also, the villain "bet" out $15 on the flop, not "raised".
    BOSS

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    Quote Originally Posted by SeanyBullets1 View Post
    Also, the villain "bet" out $15 on the flop, not "raised".
    Thanks for the lesson mr seany but that didnt help with anything its just like me saying "seany for mod" whats the purpose of this? Why do we need a mod that can't even follow the rules? Your going off topic and just being a jackass in general.

    Its poker forums, its on the internet you gotta live a little instead of coming online tring to be MR MOD.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pokerpker111 View Post
    Thanks for the lesson mr seany but that didnt help with anything its just like me saying "seany for mod" whats the purpose of this? Why do we need a mod that can't even follow the rules? Your going off topic and just being a jackass in general.

    Its poker forums, its on the internet you gotta live a little instead of coming online tring to be MR MOD.


    BTW, I like the play but I wouldn't do it very often. And when you do hit your big hand, play it exactly the same way to generate some suspicion/action.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pokerpker111 View Post
    Thanks for the lesson mr seany but that didnt help with anything its just like me saying "seany for mod" whats the purpose of this? Why do we need a mod that can't even follow the rules? Your going off topic and just being a jackass in general.

    Its poker forums, its on the internet you gotta live a little instead of coming online tring to be MR MOD.


    I'm just clearly pointing out you're nowhere near ready for this adventure that somehow still seems to be going. Variance must be on your side right now, congratulations.

    In your thread you claimed how you KNEW you were good at poker and understood poker because of a few home games and a few trips to the casino. Yet you don't even know to properly talk about a hand. What's the deal?

    And on the hand, flop the flop. You have no pair no draw. If you're going to attempt a raise to bluff and take it down, do it on the flop. I don't think there's another card that could come on that turn that would get him to fold.

    That's wonderful with your image and your "read" that you took this down, but calling a flop bet with no pair no draw is -eV EVERYTIME. At least have an outside draw or something, or make a healthy semi-bluff but this is horrible.
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    [/QUOTE]And on the hand, flop the flop. You have no pair no draw. If you're going to attempt a raise to bluff and take it down, do it on the flop. I don't think there's another card that could come on that turn that would get him to fold.

    That's wonderful with your image and your "read" that you took this down, but calling a flop bet with no pair no draw is -eV EVERYTIME. At least have an outside draw or something, or make a healthy semi-bluff but this is horrible.[/QUOTE]

    If I would have reraised on the flop, Its situational as you werent there and you can only take my word for it. Im pretty sure he would have called that as he was going to try and improve his hand. Then on the turn my only move is all in right away.

    Calling a bet on flop is set up to steal the pot later. He bet out $15 and then bet out $20 indicating hes lost in the hand and doesnt know where hes at as the $20 raise is tring to find out where he is.

    You cheak the other comments on this thread? It seems like its a good bluff. But not for you.
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    I have nothing wrong with your turn play. It's your flop play that is horrible. Yes, you're calling to set up the bluff raise on the turn. However if it misses, bye bye to your chips. Almost all of them.

    So why put yourself in a situation where if you raise the turn and he calls, you draw DEAD. Give yourself a chance on a missed bluff with at least a draw here.

    While yes, your image may be tight and your opponent may be loose-aggro, but you know what...how many people pay attention to that stuff at a live 1/2 game? Not many. So the chances of him calling on this turn, with how people play live, is a lot better than the chances of him folding.

    People live are calling stations. You can't bluff calling stations. It worked for you ONE TIME, and just because it works, doesn't mean it's a good "play."

    But nh, sir.
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    I hate this play. You have $2 commited in this hand and you have nothing on the flop, not even a outside draw. Just fold it.

    The villain was obv caught bluffing this time but this will not always be the case and you will lose most your chips. You won $40 bucks but risked losing$80 if he pushes all-in on turn and then you don't even get to see what hes got.
    "On a large enough time line, the survival rate of a Donk will drop to zero."

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