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    Default Extracting max value on river

    How do we play this river?

    Bet $6-8 to look like a block bet? Full pot/overbet? 2/3 pot?

    Villain is 22/4/0.75

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    saw flop|saw showdown

    SB ($92.50)
    BB ($60.70)
    Hero ($59.70)
    Button ($80.35)

    Preflop: Hero is UTG with , .
    Hero raises to $1.2, 1 fold, SB calls $1.05, 1 fold.

    Flop: ($2.70) , , (2 players)
    SB checks, Hero bets $2, SB calls $2.

    Turn: ($6.70) (2 players)
    SB checks, Hero bets $4, SB calls $4.

    River: ($14.70) (2 players)
    SB checks, Hero ???
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    I think about half the pot is adequate. I think the real question is should he come over the top, how much of a reraise do you plan on calling?

    With the check call the whole way that looks like he may be drawing with you and the 6 high flush could get into some trouble.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Imar View Post
    With the check call the whole way that looks like he may be drawing with you and the 6 high flush could get into some trouble.
    This was my first thought too. But if he's drawing to the flush out of position then he should really have led in to you on the river to get more value because lets face it most hands would check behind on this river.

    I think $7-10 is about right here. If he re raises big then it's an obvious fold.

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    The real question is, david, what the shit are you doing popping this PF? Look whose left to act behind you. A deep stacked button and a massively deep stacked SB.

    This is just horrible, IMO.

    As played, bet at least $10
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    Quote Originally Posted by davidab157 View Post
    How do we play this river?

    Bet $6-8 to look like a block bet? Full pot/overbet? 2/3 pot?
    lol why do you feel this is a spot where you need a rare bet such as full pot or an overbet? also, players at .15/.30 don't really understand the concept of block bets which this isn't at all. block bets are OOP when a scare card hits to prevent villain from overbetting. it is a scared move. you can check behind.

    just bet 6-9 or w/e you think he'll call, standard 2/3ish

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    Quote Originally Posted by SeanyBullets1 View Post
    The real question is, david, what the shit are you doing popping this PF? Look whose left to act behind you. A deep stacked button and a massively deep stacked SB.

    This is just horrible, IMO.

    As played, bet at least $10
    are you serious? its 4 handed...

    NOT raising this is horrible, IMO

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    Quote Originally Posted by Imar View Post
    I think about half the pot is adequate. I think the real question is should he come over the top, how much of a reraise do you plan on calling?

    With the check call the whole way that looks like he may be drawing with you and the 6 high flush could get into some trouble.
    he's not raising

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    Quote Originally Posted by SeanyBullets1 View Post
    The real question is, david, what the shit are you doing popping this PF? Look whose left to act behind you. A deep stacked button and a massively deep stacked SB.

    This is just horrible, IMO.

    As played, bet at least $10
    4 handed, if I'm playing I'm popping.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bboy View Post
    also, players at .15/.30 don't really understand the concept of block bets which this isn't at all. block bets are OOP when a scare card hits to prevent villain from overbetting.
    Woops, suddenly saw myself OOP when I converted the hand.

    I think what I meant ( it's been a tough day) is do I want to induce a raise with a smallish bet or go for the straightforward value bet?
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    shove for value

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