No reads, like my 2nd hand on table.

EDIT: my call of the original raise was to purely play this for set value. Should I be repopping?

Full Tilt Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (9 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

saw flop|saw showdown

MP2 ($24.75)
MP3 ($51.30)
CO ($5)
Button ($32.20)
Hero ($24.75)
BB ($22.40)
UTG ($18.55)
UTG+1 ($24.30)
MP1 ($10.70)

Preflop: Hero is SB with , . CO posts a blind of $0.25.
UTG calls $0.25, 3 folds, MP3 raises to $1.25, CO (poster) calls $1, Button calls $1.25, Hero calls $1.15, BB raises to $5, UTG folds, MP3 folds, CO folds, Button folds, Hero ???

It's a nice pot, what are we doing here?

The problem is, when I put him on QQ-AA I'm only playing for set value. Even if I stack him I will only take $27.65 which is like 7:1 implied odds, which isn't good enough to chase I don't think.

The other problem is if the flop is undercards, I'm an idiot and tend to stack myself to the overpair...

Originally Posted by davidab157

The problem is, when I put him on QQ-AA I'm only playing for set value. Even if I stack him I will only take $27.65 which is like 7:1 implied odds, which isn't good enough to chase I don't think.

The other problem is if the flop is undercards, I'm an idiot and tend to stack myself to the overpair...

Sorry, my maths is off I worked out the final pot be around $30. You're right - fold to the BB's raise. You'd want to see all 5 cards to make it profitable and a push is -EV against his (narrow) range.

I'd still call prior BB's to raise though.

why no reraise pf when it comes to u first?

granted, im no NL ring genius but im reraising when it comes to me first to $5 to try to thin it down and cos ive likely got the best hand right now. chances are it WILL get folded round (obv before u know what bb is gonna do)

as a matter of interest, at times when im in bb and theres a raise and a few callers before me, i do the exact same as he does and i take the pot down with any 2 cards at all.....but as i said, im no NL ring genius

at the end of the day, NL ring = to me but im trying

i'm def. reraising the original raise, then if I got raised i fold....but as played i prob call

You shouldn't cold-call OOP. If you were OTB, fine, re-raise preflop and fold to a 4-bet/shove.

As played, fold.

Is calling for set value OOP really that bad?

The reason I didn't repop is basically what Meldon said, at NL25 I'm not taking this down and I'll be left OOP with no idea where I stand. At least with the set value approach I know exactly where I am and when I do hit, a multiway pot will create some nice action.

Originally Posted by davidab157

The reason I didn't repop is basically what Meldon said, at NL25 I'm not taking this down and I'll be left OOP with no idea where I stand.

Originally Posted by davidab157

BB raises to $5, UTG folds, MP3 folds, CO folds, Button folds, Hero ???

you will take it down or when ur reraised, u can let it go.

Edit: not talking specifically in this hand but in general.