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  1. #1
    River Rat
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    Default <10bb on big blink with AKs -- fold or push?

    400/1100 players still in tournament. Bubble is 198... This is an easy fold in a cash game, but I'm trying to expand my game into tourney play...

    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

    Button (t1105)
    SB (t5724)
    Hero (t1560)
    UTG (t4835)
    UTG+1 (t2865)
    MP1 (t740)
    MP2 (t1521)
    CO (t3597)

    Preflop: Hero is BB with A, K.
    UTG calls t200, 1 fold, MP1 raises to t740, MP2 raises to t1280, 3 folds, Hero raises to t1560, UTG folds, MP2 calls t241 (All-In).

    Flop: (t4121) J, T, 9 (3 players, 1 all-in)

    Turn: (t4121) 8 (3 players, 1 all-in)

    River: (t4121) 2 (3 players, 1 all-in)

    Final Pot: t4121

    Results in white below:
    Hero has Ac Kc (high card, ace).
    MP1 has Ah 4h (high card, ace).
    MP2 has 6d Kd (high card, king).
    Outcome: Hero wins t4121.
    Last edited by feint06; 04-03-2007 at 12:50 AM.

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    Mike McDermott
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    Standard. Nice play.
    BOSS

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    I personally fold here, your facing an open raise and a reraise, most cases your playing from behind at this point even though the small stack may have been pushing any 2 cards his position is early enough you have to give it some thought and a reraise after its doubtful he is pushing any 2 cards, you have a small investment being in the BB, and the SB next after which you still have time and better position to make some moves.

    Even though we won this pot...two many times your goign to be up against a pair in this spot I think and you have to outdraw 2 opponents, this is also based on no reads which you may or may not have had.
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    With an M of 5 and the stack size of the reraiser, there isn't a chance I'm folding AKs to that action.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pokajunkee View Post
    Even though we won this pot...two many times your goign to be up against a pair in this spot I think and you have to outdraw 2 opponents, this is also based on no reads which you may or may not have had.

    Sure, we are going to be behind a lot of the time, but we are rarely going to be a big underdog and we need to gamble a bit. The short stack is pushing any high card and although MP2 is usually isolating with a decent hand we are going to be in a coin flip most of the time. With shorty's stack dead money in the pot and hands we dominate like AQ and KQ in MP2's range this spot is +EV to get it in.

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    i push that so fast that even flash wouldnt even be able to push it faster than me..
    in other words.. yes that is a insta-fucken-push

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    River Rat
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    What is this "M" I keep seeing mentioned?

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    Mike McDermott
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    your stack size in relation to the blinds + antes

    EXAMPLE:

    You have 8500 chips.

    Blinds are 300/600 w/ a 50 ante. 9 players

    The pot = 1350

    Your M = 6.3 (8500/1350)

    You have 6 orbits before the blinds devour your stack. You're nearing the red zone, too, which means any DECENT looking hand needs your chips to be in the middle.
    BOSS

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    Quote Originally Posted by feint06 View Post
    What is this "M" I keep seeing mentioned?
    HOH FTW

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