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  1. 04-02-2007 #1
    feint06
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    Default KK Big chipstack near bubble -- too aggressive?

    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t600 (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

    Button (t2250)
    SB (t5878)
    BB (t2605)
    Feint06 (t16049)
    UTG+1 (t12492)
    MP1 (t5670)
    MP2 (t4320)
    CO (t9110)

    Preflop: Feint06 is UTG with K, K.
    Feint06 raises to t1200, 3 folds, CO raises to t2400, 3 folds, Feint06 raises to t8400, CO raises to t9060, Feint06 calls t660.

    Flop: (t18420) Q, T, 2 (2 players)

    Turn: (t18420) J (2 players)

    River: (t18420) 3 (2 players)

    Final Pot: t18420

    Results in white below:
    Feint06 has Kh Ks (one pair, kings).
    CO has As Ah (one pair, aces).
    Outcome: CO wins t18420.
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  2. 04-02-2007 #2
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    Should I have min reraised? Or was I pot committed even then?
    Last edited by feint06; 04-02-2007 at 01:42 AM.
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  3. 04-02-2007 #3
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    I don't like the min-raise. I'd raise more UTG, put it up to t2400. CO has an M of about 10, as played I'm beating him to the pot when he re-raises. I suppose you could limp-reraise but I'm not a big fan of doing that.
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  4. 04-02-2007 #4
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    No matter what you do, you can't fold this pre-flop.
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  5. 04-02-2007 #5
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    IMO, it is hard, near impossible, to be too aggressive with a big stack near the bubble. In this spot, you even have the cards to back it up.

    Also, min-raise UTG with KK is worthless if you don't back it up with a push to his RR.

    EDIT: I see you basically did push. Stop it with the min-raises. DL the bet-pot script for Stars and use that if you don't like to be bothered with adjusting your bet sizes.
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  6. 04-02-2007 #6
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    You're talking about my initial raise from UTG? Normally I'd do 3x bb instead of 2, but with 5 chipstacks under 6000, I was afraid I wouldn't get any action...
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    I don't really mind the min-raise UTG with KK too much, although I wouldn't do it myself. I just meant that once you see a reraise behind you you have to push.

    I then realized that you effectively did push, but you again only min-raised, establishing a pattern. I assume you min-raise often?
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  8. 04-02-2007 #8
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    Quote Originally Posted by wastrel View Post
    I don't really mind the min-raise UTG with KK too much, although I wouldn't do it myself. I just meant that once you see a reraise behind you you have to push.

    I then realized that you effectively did push, but you again only min-raised, establishing a pattern. I assume you min-raise often?

    My reraise wasn't a min raise (would have been 3600). I intended to put him all in with my reraise, but I miscalculated the amount needed.
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    Raise more PF, after his raise, push. The odds of running into AA are so minascule(sp?) I'd beat him into the pot.

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