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    Stu Ungar phoenixdan5's Avatar
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    Default JJ UTG Deep in a tourney facing min raise

    My image is pretty over aggressive at this table. Been pushing/raising alot.



    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t3000 (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

    MP3 (t64150)
    CO (t142118)
    Button (t33366)
    SB (t6114)
    BB (t47181)
    Me (t42747)
    UTG+1 (t40710)
    MP1 (t53698)
    MP2 (t6234)

    Preflop: Me is UTG with J, J.
    Me raises to t11111, 1 fold, MP1 raises to t19222, 6 folds, Me ???????.








    I only dont push here because the min raise is so sketchy, and id rather be able to get away from it postflop and have 23K where i could easily come back, instead of jsut being out.

    next. The flop


    Flop: (t39494) A, A, 3 (2 players)
    Me ????,



    For some weird reason i really feel he had 1010 - KK
    Last edited by phoenixdan5; 03-28-2007 at 05:08 PM.
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    Push.

    PF- Raise to 9k and call a shove/fold to a re-raise/shove or shove/caller or just open-shove.

    I like stop n' going the minreraise as played. If you're not gonna overshove, but overbet, folding to the minreraise isn't horrible, but overall your overbet is pointless. You just lose FE postflop when someone cold-calls or minreraises because you're shoving any flop.
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    I couldn't help but fold here dude. I tend to get raped with fishhooks, but i do agree with the options that ALex gave-seem to be standard to me. I'm definately calling the initial raise-but after the reraise, I would release. Maybe this is why I had 5 ubbles in a row?
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    However the players there are tight and just the flops are hit or miss IMO.

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    Diggler, are you seeing that I made the initial raise.

    Making my name ME instead of hero may have thrown some people off.


    But results were i called. The stuck to my 1010-KK read and pushed the flop. He folded. Looking back it could have easily been AK but oh well i went with it.

    I just never really understand what to do PF in this situation.

    Alex - Is 11,111 with 3K blind an overbet in this situation. Its just under 4BB i thought that was fairly standard?

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    OH SHIT-YEA DUDE.

    Sorry, yea raise is good in that spot it's 4 X, and as long as your comfy post flop you should be good.

    The "Me" setting did throw me off btw...LoL.

    But your play post flop seems fine given the stack sizes though. Glad to hear you won it =)
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    However the players there are tight and just the flops are hit or miss IMO.

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    BAH!

    17th

    Im a bubble magnet
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    Easy ass push.

    EDIT: Also, your reasoning is off. Having 23K chips, roughly, at the 3K blind level is not easy to come back with. You have less than 8 BBs not to mention the antes in play.
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    For me it's either push preflop or call and push any flop. I don't think you can be throwing away these hands at this point of an MTT.

    I lean towards the preflop shove though.

    EDIT: I mean pushing to his re-raise pre-flop, not open shoving. I like the original raise but as Alex said I would make it 9k.
    Last edited by davidab157; 03-30-2007 at 01:18 AM.
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    It's a large percentage of the effective stacks at the table. Why encourage AT-A8/KJ/QJ/77-22 to fold?
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    i'd expect to see AK here more than QQ+ so I'd push. people like to call preflop and slowplay their big pairs i've noticed in MTT's, especially against a player who has been aggressive/raising a lot pf

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