PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t100 (9 handed)

CO (t4293)
Button (t1024)
SB (t2300)
Hero (t7510)
UTG (t2690)
UTG+1 (t1800)
MP1 (t1870)
MP2 (t2890)
MP3 (t1225)

Preflop: Hero is BB with , .
2 folds, MP1 calls t100, 1 fold, MP3 calls t100, CO calls t100, 1 fold, SB completes, Hero raises to t1000, MP1 calls t900, MP3 folds, CO calls t900, SB folds.

Flop: (t3200) , , (3 players)
Hero checks, MP1 bets t870 (All-In), CO folds, Hero calls t870.

Turn: (t4940) (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: (t4940) (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: t4940

Results in white below:
Hero has As Kc (one pair, aces).
MP1 has 6d 6c (one pair, sixes).
Outcome: Hero wins t4940.

on the flop when he bets, and u call what are you beating?


u do have chips and 2 overs.....buttt i cant see this being +ev?

4.5 to 1 on my money and I figure I have 6 outs twice.....you're folding for $870 more here?

You guys have been telling me to raise more for weeks. I finally get it through my thick head and now you're telling me to raise less?!?!
*throws hands up in the air*


ps...good point.

I think raising anywhere from 7-11bbs is fine. Because of the stacks that limped, a shove here really isn't that bad. There are very few spots where an overshove like this isn't bad. This can be one of them, but you only know that if you're at the table. The only 2 trappers to be worried about are the 1st 2 limpers and they're on less than 1/3 of your stack. CO and SB aren't trapping after 2/3 limpers. I most likely overbet the pot to like 750-850 and play the flop depending on the stacks that see it with me and the flop itself. Without the CO in the pot, I'm playing the flop the same every time, though, regardless of what flops, obv.

Checking to call MP2's good after CO folds. If MP2 checks and CO bets, I'd shove him or fold depending on what his bet looks like and what I have on him prior to the hand.

Open-shoving the flop isn't bad. 77-44/22 have a really tough time with this. There are only a couple of hands that we're in bad shape against- TT, A9, and 99/88/33 are brutal. The pot's just too big to see where we're at with a bet and we wanna make it tough on pocket pairs and A9 or the possibility of JT/QJ to shove with a lot of outs.

CO seems super-weak and can be set-mining but he's usually on unpaired big cards and he'll be straightforward with his stack in proportion to the pot.