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  1. 03-16-2007 #1
    Mr.McJ
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    Default I don't know how to trap!

    It seems like anytime I flop a big hand and play it aggressively, I get no action but anytime I try to trap someone, I get fucked.
    Case in point, the following 2 hands. They happened about 5 hands apart on the same table. Someone explain to me how I'm supposed to tell the difference between when it's safe to slow play and when it's not cause clearly, I aint gettin' it.



    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (9 handed)

    Button (t1300)
    SB (t1420)
    BB (t735)
    UTG (t3035)
    UTG+1 (t2700)
    Hero (t1515)
    MP2 (t1820)
    MP3 (t915)
    CO (t1420)

    Preflop: Hero is MP1 with , .
    1 fold, UTG+1 calls t30, Hero calls t30, 3 folds, Button calls t30, SB completes, BB checks.

    Flop: (t150) , , (5 players)
    SB checks, BB checks, UTG+1 checks, Hero bets t90, Button folds, SB folds, BB folds, UTG+1 folds.

    Final Pot: t240

    Results in white below:
    No showdown. Hero wins t240.







    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (9 handed)

    MP1 (t1270)
    MP2 (t1390)
    MP3 (t645)
    CO (t3035)
    Button (t2625)
    Hero (t1650)
    BB (t1970)
    UTG (t855)
    UTG+1 (t1420)

    Preflop: Hero is SB with , .
    2 folds, MP1 calls t30, 1 fold, MP3 calls t30, 2 folds, Hero completes, BB checks.

    Flop: (t120) , , (4 players)
    Hero checks, BB checks, MP1 checks, MP3 checks.

    Turn: (t120) (4 players)
    Hero bets t90, BB calls t90, MP1 folds, MP3 folds.

    River: (t300) (2 players)
    Hero bets t200, BB calls t200.

    Final Pot: t700

    Results in white below:
    Hero has 6s Ah (three of a kind, sixes).
    BB has 3h Th (flush, ten high).
    Outcome: BB wins t700.
    I think I'm going to give up playing poker.........and take up repeatedly hitting myself in the nuts
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  2. 03-16-2007 #2
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    Never slowplaying you should still beat these games.
    Slowplaying is the most overrated play in NLHE imo.

    Flop 652 and you have 66 in an unraised pot.

    Nobody will stack off with a top pair in an unraised pot. So if someone limped say QJ and turn is a J you stand to win very little anyway.

    Anybody with 77+ is no more likely to put money in the pot on the turn than flop unless they hit a set in which case you dont want them to.

    If nobody has anything theres not alot you can do. Trapping should be player specific when you have stats/history/reads that indicate a particualr player will be likey to bluff off a lot of chips. It should also mainly be done when heads up and with a reasonable idea of opponents holding.
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  3. 03-16-2007 #3
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    Quote Originally Posted by WotaWaster View Post
    Slowplaying is the most overrated play in NLHE imo.
    I agree with this sentiment, but the slow play kicks my ass. I lose a majority of my chips by betting opponents stronger hands for them.
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    You checked the wrong flop. LOL.

    Deep stacked, the bet/3-bet gets more in the middle and puts them more to the test than the check/raise. Not that doofus was raising in Hand #2.
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  5. 03-16-2007 #5
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    dont play any hand with a 6... you wont make any money with them!!!

    I may check 1st flop...

    2nd flop bet it. somebody may try to use the 6s on the board to take the pot away!
    I like to bet this kind of flop simply cause most poeple will check them when they hit!

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    Heck, I've seen people go nuts with middle pair!
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  6. 03-16-2007 #6
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    i lead both flops every single time.
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