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  1. 03-14-2007 #1
    jharding666
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    Default AKs, is anybody folding here?

    $10 45 man SnG, so 6 places get paid

    The villain was a tight player but in such a low M situation can you possibly fold AKs? I usually figure AA or KK is only a small chance when i hold AK so I thought for a few seconds before calling and decided he had QQ.
    Considering the size of the blinds I figured I was getting pretty good odds for what was probably going to be a race.

    Full Tilt Poker
    No Limit Holdem Tournament
    Blinds: t500/t1000
    8 players
    Converter

    Stack sizes:
    UTG: t8550
    UTG+1: t5390
    Hero: t5825
    MP2: t5280
    CO: t9350
    Button: t12730
    SB: t6885
    BB: t13490

    Pre-flop: (8 players) Hero is MP1 with
    UTG folds, UTG+1 raises all-in t5390, Hero raises all-in t5825.
    Uncalled bets: t435 returned to Hero.

    Flop: (t3000, 0 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: t12280)


    Turn: (t3000, 0 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: t12280)


    River: (t3000, 0 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: t12280)


    Results:
    Final pot: t3000
    UTG+1 showed Qd Qc
    Hero showed Ac Kc

    Your thoughts?
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  2. 03-14-2007 #2
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    AKs fares well against a lot of hands he could be pushing with here.
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  3. 03-14-2007 #3
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    my first thought was fold, but when I notice his all-in was only 4x the BB the decision gets tougher. If you were button, or better yet - a blind, and he was the only one in so far I would insta-call, but with 5 people behind me I may be able to lay this down. I usually prefer to be the raiser, rather than the caller in these situations.

    Still, not a bad choice... I think most of the time I woulda called too. With 15 outs on the flop, it's too bad none came.
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  4. 03-14-2007 #4
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pinguaq View Post

    1. but with 5 people behind me I may be able to lay this down.

    2. I usually prefer to be the raiser, rather than the caller in these situations.

    3. Still, not a bad choice... I think most of the time I woulda called too. With 15 outs on the flop, it's too bad none came.
    1. To be honest the only hands that are calling here are AA and KK and I think there's a slim chance anybody has that because of my holding. This didn't worry me too much. Earlier on in a tourament you might get donkeys calling with a wider range of hands despite 2 people being all in but not on the bubble.

    2. I agree 100%, this was one of my first thoughts when I had the decision.

    3. Yeah, thanks, I was in pretty good shape after the flop!
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  5. 03-14-2007 #5
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    Definite push here. Your M is <4, so is his and you're about to be nailed by the blinds in a couple of hands, I'm pushing with far worse than AK here.
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  6. 03-14-2007 #6
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    With your stack sizes theres an awful lot you beat, easy push for me.
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