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    Stu Ungar Mr.McJ's Avatar
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    Default AKs vs The Ugliest Flop Ever

    Should I just check/fold?


    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed)

    CO ($52)
    Button ($18.60)
    Hero ($52.75)
    BB ($16.95)
    UTG ($30.40)
    MP ($15.45)

    Preflop: Hero is SB with , .
    2 folds, CO calls $0.50, Button calls $0.50, Hero raises to $2.5, 1 fold, CO folds, Button calls $2.

    Flop: ($6) , , (2 players)

    Hero....???
    I think I'm going to give up playing poker.........and take up repeatedly hitting myself in the nuts

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    $6 dollars in pot, villian (only 1 of them) has $16 left... you got top pair with outside draw... fuck it, I would likely push. He probably has A-Q, Ax, just hope x doesnt = 10. He could also have a middle/low pair.
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    I don't see why there's a question here? He could've called you with any pair that didn't see this board, any AXs, any broadway. If he caught the flop, you have outs to the redraw.

    I hope for a 3-bet all-in. I bet out $4 then call his all-in, or if he min-raises, I put him all-in.
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    Given:
    - You put 5bb of his 36bb in preflop
    - He limp called which means theres a good chance he has a low pair and not likely he has hit a set here.
    - You have outs if he does have 2 pair
    - He's shortstacked so likely a donk

    I would pot it and call a shove or push all in on any turn.

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    I bet $5, villain min-raised me. I'm pretty sure I'm screwed but took the same line as you guys and shoved, he calls.
    Villain shows ATo.

    edit: I figured the limp/call PF probably meant small pair or something like KQ/KJ/AJ. So when the villain min raised, I was more afraid of the 2 pair than anything.
    Last edited by Mr.McJ; 03-06-2007 at 04:19 PM.
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    You're not WA/WB here. He can come over the top of you with some gambles where he's pushing a flip like an Ace high FD or some hands like KT/QT/JT where he can think he's only a slight dog at worst when you have him beat and have his outs dead.

    One alternative is a CRAI so you get worse hands to trap their money in the pot, but the opponent would have to be an aggressive sucker. Generally, I like committing with $5 and calling a push here. Were the clubs not out there, betting $4 and folding to a push wouldn't be bad, but we have to protect our hand and his limp/call PF on the button after 1 limper's usually gonna be a suited Ace, suited Jack down to J7, bottom 2, middle or bottom pair with an open-ender, or a straight when he comes over the top of us on the flop. AT's gonna slowplay as much as JT/QT, and bad Kings are gonna play it safe and check/call it down.
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    against a guy with more chips i dont see anything wrong with a CF.

    but against a donk shortstack who could have god knows what, you have to go broke here

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    I bet enough to be sure I wont be able to fold later in the hand... (note that its cause villain has only $18 or so... I would play it differently if he's long stack)

    The flop is not that bad... You probably have the best right now. I f not you certainly have outs...

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    Heck, I've seen people go nuts with middle pair!

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