QQ OTB With a Rigged Board Ever Against a Cutie

[the alex]

Villian called a lot preflop and was dancing around me with these gay CMR's on every flop where I raised his BB. I CB''d with air twice and folded. The third time I looked him up on every street with A9 on a 4-7-A-4-J rainbow board and he had TT. I haven't raised his BB since that hand because last orbit there was a raise from the solid player on my right where he pulled the same crap with her, but she 3-bet the flop and Villian folded. So, this was my 2nd Button since the A9>TT hand.

Note on Me: I've played a more solid game over the last couple of months because people weren't having it anymore with my LAGtardation. Good work, tighty-pantses. It only took you 3 years.

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $5/$10
4 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $1435.50
Hero: $2345
SB: $390.50
BB: $890

Pre-flop: (4 players) Hero is Button with
UTG folds, Hero raises to $35, SB folds, BB calls.

Flop: ($75, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $60, BB raises to $120, Hero _______________ ???

No results for a couple of days but I did PM the HH to myself.

[Loz]

Overcards make it a tough laydown. Anxious to see the analysis here.

[WotaWaster]

You have to put $60 into $255 giving you 4-1 odds. The way you have described this player I think you are definitely ahead over 1 in 4 times.

Whats your read on how likely the opponent is to bluff at the turn if you call here?

Seems a spot where a call on the flop would be OK with position.

[the alex]

Whats your read on how likely the opponent is to bluff at the turn if you call here?

Seems a spot where a call on the flop would be OK with position.

I don't have a read on a doofus like this. The hand where I had A9 and called the flop, he 1/2 potted the turn and river. It wasn't because of a read. It was cheap. I had a hand. If he had me beat, oh well.

But this board? The cliche is "call the flop and re-evaluate the turn," but what turn cards are "good" for my evaluations.

[Loz]

why not come over top with a reraise? Youmay not want to see the turn or the river, at least with out giving him horrible odds if he is on a drawing hand.

[the alex]

why not come over top with a reraise? Youmay not want to see the turn or the river, at least with out giving him horrible odds if he is on a drawing hand.

Someone else suggested this. I just hate 3-betting on the flop in position. I think it makes it easier for my opponent to play OOP especially when he has no money on the table. Re-raising is effectively the same as shoving and I don't think a $60 raise should induce me to commit like $800 more.

I actually think it was retarded CB on my part because I can't fold for $60 that I know's coming back at me, but I can't think of good turn cards and he'll price me in with "OK" turn cards.

[tightagressive]

I would call in position.

[Acesareplayedout]

Very interesting cash game hand. Well I'll take a stab. I don't like the raise pre. Obviously you've beat yourself up over that so I won't tell you I'd have liked a slightly larger bet if you think there's a higher than normal expectation of this fool to call. First impressions are he has a J or a 10 in his hand. In which case I'm laughing. I haven't asserted that I have a real hand yet either. So he may think he's in good shape. Or he could count 15 outs on over with OESD. Running about even money. Good reason for a raise and a shot to take the pot right there. But I think the flop was too good to min raise in that position. I would actually credit him for a big hand. Not overs. There's no way someone in that position would min raise with a larger PP than our Q's. So I would take away KK AA. Leaves me placing him on a marginal hand. JQ, KJ, K10, KQ. But those don't look right. He hit a set? Not J's. Maybe flat call 8's? I don't think so. I don't think a min bet would be appropriate. I think 67, J7, JQ are a lot more likely. I once read an article by Erick Lindgren warning on beware of min betting. I think this flop is too good to be min betting on a draw. I place him on monster and fold. If I felt wild I would reraise $150-$200 if I thought he would ever considering folding a draw hand. If not I would fold. Interesting.

[Eclipse86]

given opponents previous history.. I would be inclined to call the flop raise, then call a turn bet that is $230 or less, and quite possibly fold to a river bet. I may also fold to a turn bet if the turn card is something dangerous like a 7 or a diamond.

Also one thing u can start doing to combat the check min raise if hes getting outa line with it and doing it every single time, is too bet less on the flop (like maybe 1/2 pot?) and then just call the min raise that comes. Then play the hand as if he had check-called ur cb.

If he just happens to flat call ur 1/2 pot bet on the flop. Then u can start firing 2nd barrels on safe turns, because u basically pot controlled the flop.

[the alex]

I just called the flop and decided to not sacrifice my position. I wasn't a large favorite on the flop and I think this is the best case scenario so I still think 3-betting is a bad idea.

Turn: ($315, 2 players)
BB bets $180, Hero calls.

River: ($675, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $555, BB calls all-in $555.

Results:
Final pot: $1785
Hero showed Qh Qc
BB showed Kd JavaScript