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    Super Moderator WotaWaster's Avatar
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    Default $100NL TPTK on 3 flush board

    How do people play this here?

    MP2 is running 17/7/AF5 over 800 hands and I have him pegged as a solid aggresive player but very capable of making moves, raising weak hands in position and check raise bluffing etc

    Little while before this he limped in EP, I raised to 6bb with KK out of the blinds and he called.

    Flop was

    I led for 10 into 12.5 and he raised to 25. Given my perception of him and the drawing nature of board I had his range to include hands like pocket pairs asking if I had AK and a flush/straight draw so I pushed. He called with 22 and I rivered a K.

    Other 2 in pot are 40/0 donks.

    I feel a lead here is likely to be called in at least one place and may be raised and dont really want to have to play a turn here OOP with my hand.

    PokerRoom No-Limit Hold'em, $1 BB (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

    Hero ($220.20)
    MP1 ($72.20)
    MP2 ($98.50)
    CO ($38.65)
    Button ($144.50)
    SB ($36.00)
    BB ($120.70)
    UTG ($12.50)

    Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with A, K.
    1 fold, Hero raises to $5, 1 fold, MP2 calls $5, CO calls $4, 2 folds, BB calls $4.

    Flop: ($20.50) 2, K, T (4 players)
    BB checks, Hero checks, MP2 bets $15, CO folds, BB folds, Hero folds.

    Final Pot: $35.50

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    NH.

    That's a bad flop for . Factor in that you're multiway and one of those people are so aggressive that he's gonna price himself into not folding.
    Quote Originally Posted by FaDi View Post
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    GodFadiR (12:32:48 AM): who doesnt wanna fuck me
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    WotaWotaWota (12:33:27 AM): in tehanus

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    You really like that Alex?
    I feel here I have raised PF and flopped TPTK so probably should bet. It is very unlikely someone actually has flopped flush or a set and my hand figures to be good most of the time.

    Also when this guy bets out I feel I should consider raising. He certainly doesn't have to have flopped the flush and seems a guy who could make a move.

    Don't get me wrong, I would play the hand the same again. I just thought someone a bit more adventurous like yourself may view my play here as weak.

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    4-way, I check/fold here every time second to act.

    I'll expand on this. You can lead out and get it all-in here because you don't wanna cold-call a raise and open-shove the turn for an amount that no one's folding. You can check/raise, but you commit your stack in the process. This just looks like a break-even spot where the money's getting in the middle. You can lead out and fold to a raise, but you're out of position and when you get called, you're check/folding wasting the flop bet or leading out with money that takes the pot or commits you.

    It's a case where you lose so much when you have the best hand that it doesn't make up for when you're drawing dead.
    Last edited by the alex; 03-03-2007 at 02:45 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by FaDi View Post
    GodFadiR (12:32:45 AM): but lets be honest
    GodFadiR (12:32:48 AM): who doesnt wanna fuck me
    WotaWotaWota (12:33:22 AM): I do
    WotaWotaWota (12:33:27 AM): in tehanus

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    same situation where i was telling you about on aim where i raised preflop with AA and just check folded the flop.

    i raised out of the blind an outrageous ammount, still got 4 callers, flop came ThJh8h and i had black aces. easy check fold.

    honestly out of 3 people, the odds your hand is good and is going to hold up enough of the time to make this profitable OOP are just not good enough. just play a small pot here, check and hope for a good turn card. if somone wants to bet then they either have you crushed, or have plenty of outs.

    your read, albiet is probably spot on, is pretty much irrelevant here. 3 people saw this flop, you have one pair, no heart, and are oop. the odds are too great you are either a slight fav or HUGE underdog.

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    I dont really like the flop check, unless ur planning to check-fold 100% of the time here right off the bat, then its ok.

    Anyways, since there are 4 people to the flop here, I would have led out for the pot with a 2/3rds pot bet on that flop and taken it from there. If im called, then I have pretty much controlled the pot size, and I therefore have more room to maneuver with on the turn/river. If my flop lead is raised, then its an easy laydown.
    Last edited by Eclipse86; 03-04-2007 at 01:43 AM.

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