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    Stu Ungar Mr.McJ's Avatar
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    Default Live Hand - Table Full of Laggy Gamblers

    So last night I went over to Pokajunkee's house to play some poker. We were playing $50NL ring, 11 handed. It's a Friday night with a bunch of friends from work and already we're about 3-4 beers deep, so everyone is looking to have some fun and no one seems afraid to put there money into the middle of the table. A couple people have already gone bust and bought back in, some more than once, and a couple of the guys at the table were more than willing to play big pots with marginal holdings (like all in PF for $20 with KJo.)

    As for myself, I'd been running a little cold up until this point. Anytime I tried to limp into a pot, I would get raised out of it and anytime I raised a pot with a marginal holding (ATs, for example) I would get RE-raised out of it.

    On this particular hand I was sitting in fairly LP (2 off the button I think, maybe even CO) and I had

    EP raises to $3. EP is incredibly laggy, likes to play every pot and will usually come in raising. So I'm almost certain I'm ahead of him and I re-raise to $9 to isolate. The person on my left, Pokajunkee himself, then goes all in for about $18. Now Pokajunkee is a solid player, easily the second best player at the table (.) He's certainly capable of making a move and raising with junk but he's smart enough to know that he couldn't possibly get away with it in this situation. So we have to give him credit for a hand (AK, maybe 99+ and MAYBE AQ.) That being said, I realize that I'm getting great pot odds, figured I was probably racing and was ready to call UNTIL the BB cold calls Pokajunkee's all in. The BB is a complete unknown. He's a friend of one of our co-workers and I've only ever played maybe 20 hands with the guy, and that was a long time ago. From what I've seen tonight though, I figure he's a decent player and have to give him some respect.

    The original raiser folds, as I knew he would, and it's back to me. $9 to call and there's $48 in the pot. I've got about $35 left and the BB has me covered. What do I do?



    RESULTS:

    I didn't have any clue where I was and couldn't even be sure that my A was live. So I folded.
    Pokajunkee had TT.
    BB had AK.
    Flop came Qxx x x and I would have won.
    After the hand there was some discussion on wether or not I could fold there. I decided to take everyone's advice from the "At which point should I be folding here?" thread and play it safe. If BB has AA/KK and the board comes Qxx, or if BB has AK and the board comes Axx, I'm going broke.
    Also...something else we discussed after the hand was wether or not BB could just call there. In my opinion it was shove or fold situation and I would have leaned towards folding if I was BB.


    Thoughts?
    Last edited by Mr.McJ; 02-24-2007 at 10:39 AM.
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    You should definitely fold unless they are really, really bad.
    Absolute best case scenarion they have both got JJ or something and too often one of them has QQ+ or AK giving you maybe 3 outs.

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    Yeah, I'd go for a fold, especially because it's 11 handed. Most of the time you are just dead money.
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    Defo fold it. And yeah you're right, BB should fold aswell imo.
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    It was definitely a fun night and a juicy table, I thought it was a great fold and even better seeing as I was playing agressive and was pushing you a few times throughout the night.

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    well if BB is a decent player as you say and hes cold called a raise, re raise, all in then 99% of the time your beat and the other 1% in a race. I fold.

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